Underground Base - Dawsonville GA

The picture below was taken in June of 1959 while the nuclear reactor was running at full bore. Some thought it was the Apocalypse coming and families gathered together and prayed! Note in upper right of this picture at how the sky glowed at night above the GNAL test facility. Some say that this glow was from the burning of large piles of trees, yet locals told me that there was no sign of smoke nor smell of burning of trees!

By mm30004

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
After reading over the post here i decided to tell the story of my time escorted from dawson forest by military police and f.b.i.
In the early to mid 90's i lived just over the dawson/forsyth county lines off of hwy 9 and on one nice summer day i had gotten tired of riding my dirt bike in my backyard,So a friend and myself decided to travel down hwy 9 on our dirtbikes and make the quick left into dawson forest.



As the two mp's had gotten out of the jeep another vehichle had pulled up and this one had two F.B.I AGENTS after several minutes of listening to the F.B.I agents threaten us and tell us that we were trespassing on government property and that if they wanted to they could lock us up (and the whole time there yelling at us the mp's have there riffles trained on us) after giving them are names and addresses along with telephone numbers we were told that if we were ever caught in the area again we would be arrested and locked up. We were aloud to push our dirtbikes to the main dawson forest rd where we were then escorted out of the forest with the f.b.i in the car in front of us and the mp's in there jeep behind us.

After returning to my house and talking to my dad and explained everything to him. he had said that he had heard the stories while at the main dinner in dawsonville he said that he had dismissed al of it as just small town gossip til i had told him what happened to me. all i know is that day i was never so scared as i was .. i no longer live in dawson county but my father and stepmother still do and when i return i still ride in the forest but not in the area where i was caught by the mp's and the F.B.I i have come close but just have not been able to cross over a certain section of the forest for fear of being arrested

I just spoke with a friend of mine that rode dirt bikes up there all the time too...he told me that they used to terrorize those woods and security was always chasing them all over the place...he said that they even had fired shots a time or two, but they never caught them! LOL!

So im bringing the thread alive from the dead! I am very interested in getting underground or into the old hot cell that has been welded up!! I have been there before with no luck getting under ground or into any of the buildings. So has anyone found a way into the old hot cell? Im curious to see if there are really and trucks in there! or anything of that nature

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I'm new to this site and was looking for something else and happened upon the Dawson Forest posts. I've read every post (even ones related that are under different threads) that I can, and I can say definitively that although some of these come close, most have some inaccuracies and some are just plain wrong. Not that there's anything wrong with speculation (after all that's why we're here), but it is interesting to see how stories get augmented throughout the years. (It's like the "whisper" game.) Not to mention the rumors that circulated during its activity. So, here's the partial scoop. For the rest of the scoop, you'll have to wait as I am writing a book. (I noticed someone's post mentioned that "Georgia Tech guru Gene Greneker" is writing a book. I'm a graduate of Ga Tech. I'm not familiar with this person, but will look him up so we can perhaps collaborate or make sure we're covering different angles.)

I live here and grew up near here. I have two first hand resources which had high Security clearance on the issue and others through them. (Most are deceased. And I'll leave it at that concerning the sources.) Although certain things have been declassified and are clear to post, there are still sensitivities around the subject.

If you're interested in anything past what I post here, please let me know and I'll provide information as long as it doesn't compromise my book.

Dawson Forest is a tract of 25,000 acres owned (and still owned) by the city of Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport and Lockheed. That's bizarre in itself. It is divided into 2 tracts - a 10,000 & 15,000 acre. It is run by the Georgia Wildlife Mgt and is dedicated to wildlife and re-forestation.

It was formerly the site of the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory (GNAL) ran by Lockheed. It was also to be the 2nd site for the Hartsfield Airport up until 1968. The facility was heavily active from 1954-58, but Nuclear Aircraft research was officially shut down due to safety concerns. Also, most tests here were rocket-based and were not planes. (NA still exists but is highly classified & very different than the 50s...and is not conducted here.)

There was a 10 megawatt nuclear reactor that was used in the research and this was decommissioned in 1975. The nuclear facility includes the reactor, a run-off basin and a holding tank. This is a small reactor. As of recently, no significant remaining radioactive material (based on federal standards) exists in the area, but monitors do still show man-made radioactive material such as Cesium.

The site consisted of mainly above-ground buildings which have been destroyed and a rail-road system throughout the site mainly used for rocket transmittal. Both rail-bridges have been destroyed.

Very little paper documentation was kept on site and most was transported daily to another facility. Most underground facilities and basements have been filled in. Unfortunately, there is no current underground active facility here, so that part of conspiracy theories can be put to rest. It sounds cool, but it is total folly because while the terrain and the location are remote, the geological make-up does not lend itself to high security. The open desert is far better. But, I will give you a teaser. You won't find info on open GPS systems, but if you work for the government and have access to a government-operated GPS system, you'll see that it shows as a "Military base", which is inaccurate if you go by the standard definition of a "base", but that's a story all its own.

Unfortunately, the "spookiness" of the place has been heightened since it has been the scene of several crimes including where the young woman who was found who was kidnapped from Blood Mtn and murdered 2 years ago on New Year's day.

That's all for now. Hope it helps.

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Hi!

Welcome to ATS.

And a great first post - measured, objective, factual.... keep looking and posting!

Peace!

Originally posted by hexed1911
Although this is my first post on ATS, I have been reading the forums for many years now. I think for about at least 3 years. I normally just lurk in the shadows of other posts while trying to draw my own opinion on the subjects discussed. Typically I dispise forums because of all the "flaming" that goes on. Although I am giving myself a kick in the a$$ now in order to come forward about topics I need others to shed light on.

The topic I want to bring to everyones attention is an underground base that I can find no mention of anywhere that is located in Dawsonville, Georgia. The base is located in Dawson Forrest. This is federal property by the way. If you travel up 400 North past Cumming, past exit 17, you will come to the North GA outlet mall. At this light you turn onto "dawson forrest rd" ( i think thats the name.. but a simple google earth/mapquest query and you can surely check).

I have a very good friend (thats how all these stories start out.. but bear with me) who for a while loved the hobby of urban exploration. For those of you who dont know, urban exploration is a hobby shared by many young people to explore abandoned, old, damaged, or unvisited places/structures... I think thats a pretty good description... shoot me if I missed something there. Anyway one day my friend is talking to our buddy who works for the GA DOT. He is in charge of all the construction that goes on with the roads.. right now he is working in CUMMING doing construction on the roads off exit 14. Before he worked for the DOT he worked for a contracting company. Back in the early 90s the company he worked for (which I can provide the name but I would need to ask him again) was contracted by the US GOVN to cover up a NUCLEAR Reactor at a underground military base in the Dawson forrest. Nobody knew about the base. Only select individuals where allowed to work on this contract. My friend himself did not work there, but like I said he worked for the company. Guess what.. After he left the company he talked to several of his old friends about the subject of the base. He obtained copies of the paperwork and shared it with us. The paperwork clearly stated what the job entailed.

The job was to seal off the nuclear reactor (not sure what with) then poor concreate over it several feet deep. Then they were flood the base with water. Then seal off all entrances/exits to the base. The job was completed and time went on.

Enough of the history of how I found out about the base, but I found it nessasary so I dont get flamed. I didnt stumble upon this and make this up, we found out about it from someone who has nothing to do with any of this, just a family friend, and someone who doesnt have any opinions of what is up there.

After we found out about the base via our friend, we started asking other people have they heard of it. I asked my father who was in the military (Navy Seal during Nam then worked for Lockhead and Dobins Air Force Base after he retired) and he said he believed no such base existed. I searched google, google maps, (at the time google earth was not around) and the MS terra server sat photos.. We found nothing. Then we asked some local people we know up there, because my friends are from White County, which is HELEN GA.

We eventually heard some TALL TELL stories of people going to the base and getting in trouble. To spare you of events that I have no knowledge of or proof, i will only briefly describe the stories.
1) A guy and girl went up to the dawson forrest and where making out in their car in the woods. After about an hour or so there was a knock on the window... They where greeted by two FBI agents who escorted them out of the woods and to a police station. Questioned and then let go.
2) A group of divers went up to the base, found a way in and wanted to explore. They returned and said the base was at least 6-7 stories deep and was flooded, but filing cabinets and desks and even trucks are still down in the base.

Continued......

Since you are the op here, how close in proximity is this base to

GA 400 & Hwy 53. or Jot Em Down Rd.? There is a huge construction project planned in that area. Just wondering if they could be related.

The name of the project is. ( Mt. Pegasus.)



Eye of Eagle

(boycott Bank of America)

but if you work for the government and have access to a government-operated GPS system, you'll see that it shows as a "Military base", which is inaccurate if you go by the standard definition of a "base", but that's a story all its own.

i'm confused so the base is inactive but shows as active on goverment run gps systems? What are you implying?

Just something brief....

I'm sort of suprised that the NA research doesn't raise more eyebrows on a site like this. IF there is *interesting* research being done in the black, this would be the paint thrown on it.

Not that I think that has anything to do with this site. The story here is the improperly cleaned up nuclear material. Just saying that the connection to NA didn't raise more eyebrows.

As an aside, a Lockheed "base" imho is much more interesting than a Governmental "base" from a sensationalist point of view. Once again, just sayin'.

Just read the entire thread. Epic. I wish I lived in GA. :/

It's good to see that this topic is coming to life again. Does anybody have any pics or illustrations of this? Before the snakes start crawling, I'd like to go back up and do some more exploring, especially on the north end. I'd like to find the SDF test area like the one up at Oakridge.

Inside Dawson Forest
A History of the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory

By Dwayne Keith Petty
What if the remains of a former nuclear facility, once operated in isolation and under tight security, existed in your own back yard? For the residents of Pickens, Forsyth, Cherokee, and Dawson counties, such a "what if" is instead reality.
Welcome to the Dawson Wildlife Management Area, a 10,000-acre tract of forest currently owned by Hartsfield International and overseen by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources.
A pristine wilderness, serving campers, hikers, equestrians, and hunters, this stretch of land was also once the home of the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory (GNAL), a nuclear facility in conjunction with the Lockheed Martin Corporation, the United States Air Force and the Atomic Energy Commission.
With operations beginning in the 1950s until decommissioning in 1971, the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory's primary goal was to create a nuclear propulsion system for military aircraft.
The facility, spread out over several miles, included a hot cell building, a nuclear reactor site, and a cooling site for irradiated materials. These three separate sites were connected by an onsite narrow-gauge railway system with rail cars that transported materials to and from the three facility stations. The railway played a vital role in the mobilization of large components, systems, and products.
According to an anonymous source who worked for the Lockheed Nuclear Products Division from 1957 until 1960 in nuclear shielding, and afterward for NASA and Huntsville's nuclear rocket program, the Dawsonville site was chosen for construction of the nuclear facility for several reasons. First of all, the plant (also known as Air Force Plant 67) was "an easy commute for the technical and nuclear wizards of Marietta's Air Force Plant 6." The site also afforded low population density and what was labeled a well-shielded area, basically meaning at the time,
very little else existed in the immediate vicinity.
The reactor itself, a 10 million watt reactor, was in a hollow of the forest. It was kept in a [concrete] pool when not in use and raised from the pit when it was to be operated. During any test or irradiation procedures when the reactor was in operation, facility employees reverted to shielded underground quarters. Once the reactor had been raised and turned on, or "flashed," employees waited for the procedure to end and the reactor to be returned to its pool before again emerging from the shielded quarters.
It is important to note that the nuclear reactor at the Dawson Forest site was what is termed an air-shielded reactor. This means the reactor was unshielded when removed from its storage pool. Each time it was used to irradiate a product of any kind, it also irradiated the surrounding landscape and forest. After only a few uses, all the foliage surrounding the reactor area had died.
Lockheed continued research on nuclear-powered aircraft for several years. At the height of the Cold War, the United States government and military, suspicious of Soviet advances in the same area, made this a top priority. In theory, a nuclear-powered craft could remain aloft for weeks without the need to land and refuel. Such technology, in the minds of military strategists, would have been invaluable. The vision, however, was never realized.
As use of the facility changed, specialists in the field of nuclear study had recognized that various materials took on new properties when irradiated, and Lockheed Nuclear Products was born.
During this phase of the facility's operation, products were loaded onto the rail cars and transported to the reactor site. Once exposed to the reactor's radiation, the products would then be railed to the cooling site and retrieved by plant workmen.
One such product was wood. Transformed in strength and durability by the irradiation process, ordinary pine, infused with a type of resin or polymer, would be loaded onto the facility rail cars delivered to the reactor site. The Lockheed Martin Corporation then marketed the resulting product.
As best as the former nuclear shielding expert could remember, the product was marketed under the name "Lockwood." Some of this wood product was even used in the flooring of the Atomic Energy Commission in Germantown, Maryland.
Beginning in 1958, the Lockheed/ Dawsonville reactor site was also the location of extensive radiation studies and animal experiments. Conducted via contract with the University of Georgia, Emory University, and the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, these studies subjected wildlife, both indigenous to the area and introduced to the area, and the surrounding landscape to massive doses of radiation.
In his research report entitled The Effect of Neutron-Gamma Radiation on Free-living Small Mammals at the Lockheed Reactor Site, Jay H. Schnell chronicles an experiment with various types of rats that took place in August of 1960 at the Dawsonville facility. In this experiment, researchers, under the direction of Dr. Robert B. Platt of Emory University, released various populations of rats into the fields and forest surrounding the reactor site. The rats, having been tagged, were later recaptured in baited traps after the area had been exposed to intense radiation in order to document effects and mortality rates.
A rad is one measurement of radiation. A lethal dose of radiation for the rats was considered from 500 to 650 rads. This same dosage is also lethal for human beings. During the experiments that Schnell describes, up to 7,394 rads emitted from the reactor into the experimental field. The reactor operated for three weeks at varying radiation levels except on weekends and during personnel shift changes at midnight, 8 a.m., and 4 p.m.
The effects on the various rat populations introduced included increased mortality rate (often 100%), immobility, disorientation, and graying or whitening of pelts.
In a separate report from this same period, entitled Some Effects of Neutron Gamma Radiation on Late Summer Bird Populations, Schnell documents the results of the same irradiation process and experiment on Carolina wrens, bobwhites, yellowthroats, white-eyed and red-eyed vireos, and indigo buntings.
From July 26, 1960 until August 20, 1960, the percentage of these birds in the irradiated areas dropped dramatically. Schnell even estimates that some of the subjects observed in the experiment received as much as 27, 700 rads of radiation during the study period. Eugene P. Odum of the University of Georgia stated in 1965, "Experience with the unshielded reactor at Dawsonville, Georgia provides a good example [of the effects of radiation]. After one of the high energy runs the entire population of marked cotton rats living in the adjacent field was exterminated--Small birds entering the radiation field were also undoubtedly killed--"'
Other experiments of the time included simulation of the effects of nuclear war on the forest around the reactor site. In Code Red Alert: Confronting Nuclear Power in Georgia, the authors state of the Dawsonville facility, "Further, studies were done using nuclear reaction energy levels 'giving radiation doses up to supralethal' to simulate nuclear war without 'the heat and blasts associated with bomb tests.' The forest was irradiated in two acute exposures in June 1959 and in August 1960, and it was recommended that the area be called a 'radiation subclimax' as the 'radiation disturbed community is not in the normal successional pattern.'
A forest develops in an established pattern. In this case, the pattern was altered due to the high levels of radiation."
A subclimax area is a natural area that continues to suffer adversely the effects of a flood, fire, hurricane, etc. after the event (or climax) itself. In the case of the Dawson Forest, the adversely affecting climax was the irradiation process.
Of the two acute exposures, the most detrimental effects from the reactor emanated into the forest environment during the middle two weeks of June 1959. At this time, scientific study dictated a release of neutron and gamma rays for the express purpose of documenting both immediate damage to pine and deciduous trees and to study the long-term effects on tree growth, tree resiliency, and leaf cycles.
This study was one of two initiated by the Environmental Sciences Branch of the Division of Biology and Medicine of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. The other took place at Brookhaven National Laboratories on Long Island, New York.
In both instances, the necessity of the study originated via the potential threat of nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Comprehensive understanding of the ultimate effects of nuclear war was a top priority for the United States at the time, and in the folds of urgency, our nation's ability to recover from such an attack was top priority.
In a study conducted through Emory University, Robert A. Pedigo stated, "One of the most urgent reasons for vastly increasing our inventory of radiation sensitivities is that of intelligently planning for the problems which would arise in nuclear warfare. In this case the essential elements of our renewable natural resources could have received drastic, in many cases lethal, doses [of radiation] and the efficiency with which society can recover will be due in large measure to the reconstitution of our renewable natural resources."
One of the most important natural resources being forestland for the production of wood products, the Dawson Forest studies began.
The reactor operating at full power, the gamma-neutron field extended to distances beyond 3,000 feet from the reactor, depending on terrain, effectively occupying some 300 acres in radius of the reactor. Total absorption rates of up to 100,000 rads of radiation during the extended operation of the reactor are documented for trees closest to the reactor, with absorption rates declining as distance from the reactor increased.
In short, the physicists at GNAL successfully reconstructed the ground-zero detonation of a nuclear weapon using the reactor instead of a bomb.
The effects of this reconstructed warfare were disastrous on the forest. Trees closest to the reactor, especially pines, began to turn color and die immediately. Archival photographs of the area show stands of pines that are almost identical in appearance to stands of pines infested with Southern pine beetles seen today in Georgia; and even deciduous trees, though not killed, suffered dramatic effects due to the radiation.
During the two years that followed the June 1959 irradiation of Dawson Forest, hardwood trees shed their leaves an average of six weeks early during the fall and began producing buds six weeks later in spring.
Even then, bud and leaf production was dramatically reduced due to the radiation stresses imposed on natural cyclical processes. In addition, both lateral and radial growth of all trees within the test field suffered dramatically, and the gamma-neutron field area, extending an eventual approximate mile in radius from the reactor, would remain a recovering wasteland and home to irradiation and animal experiments for the next several years.
A final tally of the irradiation processes from December 1958 until December 1960 shows an approximate 100,000 rads of radiation absorbed within a 1,000-foot radius of the reactor, with taper levels of rads extending up to 4,000 feet from the reactor. Of this radiation, most would have been contained inside the test field; but neutron radiation, which is the type of radiation associated with fallout from nuclear weapons, could theoretically have been lifted into the atmosphere and carried various distances according to existing wind patterns at the time of the irradiation processes. Such, however, is not a matter of documentation and exists only as a matter of conjecture.
Today, decades after the Cold War, Red scares and blacklistings, air-raid drills, and H-bomb shelters, the remains of the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory are few but quite evident within the Dawson Wildlife Management Area. Numerous foundations of leveled buildings peer through weeds; the clearly visible bed of the gauge rail leads to the Etowah River and deeper into the forest to the cooling area, fence-enclosed due to contamination; abutments of two detonated bridges, once a part of the gauge railway, adorn the banks of the river; and the hot cell building stands intact near the entrance to the management area.
According to Georgia Forestry Commission employee Nathan McClure, who managed Dawson Forest and Paulding Forest from 1991 until 2004, the latter stands because of the immense difficulty and expense involved in demolishing 48-inch thick steel and concrete walls. Still, all openings to the building, used for the examination and study of irradiated materials, have been sealed with concrete blocks overlaid with steel plates. Additionally, two fences, the outer topped with barbed wire, surround the building, which was identified several decades ago as a radiation hot spot due to remaining traces of Cobalt 60 and Europium 152.
McClure stated, "Our charge was to keep folks away from this building for a variety of safety concerns - mostly the hazards associated with getting injured while climbing in, around, and through the building."
Aside from the visual aboveground remains, the remains of the underground facility at the reactor area also still exist. This was the area that shielded physicists and workers during irradiation processes. It consists of three underground levels and a tunnel that led to a parking area for employees during the time the plant was in operation. These underground compartments, which had to be continuously pumped during the 1950s and 1960s, are now completely flooded due to the water table, and entrances are sealed with bulldozed mounds of dirt for the protection of individuals, although according to McClure, "We have continuously had to seal up the 3 openings to the tunnel and underground area because folks occasionally dig them out."
As for the radiation dangers within the Dawson Forest today, little, if any, danger exists according to the Georgia Forestry Commission and Georgia's Environmental Protection Division. Within the hot cell and cooling areas, some hot spots of Cobalt 60 and Europium 152 are present, but having already spent their half-lives plus an additional decade and a half, their radiation levels probably pose no more threat than levels of background radiation, radiation that occurs naturally in the environment. Still, as a precaution, the areas remain restricted to the public.
Additionally, the EPD has radiation monitors placed in questionable areas throughout the forest, and assessments are conducted every three months to ensure continued public safety, and Etowah River water is tested on a regular basis for quality purposes. Such measures, however, don't necessarily quell rumors.
Though it seems difficult to get some people who are actually knowledgeable of the facility to talk about the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory, its impact upon local legend has been indelible.
Stories of accidents, sickness, and animal mutations persist. Hunters claim extra sets of antlers or absence of antlers on full-grown bucks, atrophied legs, and albino pelts. At one point, the tale of a Cyclops deer circulated. Such stories remain by and large unsubstantiated, though science does point to the fact that genetic mutations can be hereditary.
Of his thirteen years inside Dawson Forest, Nathan McClure jokes, "I've never seen any 5 legged deer or other strange creatures on the site."
Other residents of Dawson, Pickens, and Forsyth Counties remember the days of the red sky, in 1959, which many at first believed to be the end of the world but later attributed to GNAL operations.
During this time, the sky in the vicinity was a deep crimson color, and some families gathered inside to pray, fearing the Apocalypse. Was this phenomenon related to operations at the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory? No one knows for sure, and though June 1959 does go down on record as the period of most acute irradiation of the forest, those who remember the red sky do not remember dates for possible correlation.
It is, however, unlikely because any radiation emitted from the Dawson reactor would not have been visible to the naked eye.
Many mysteries still remain regarding the operation of the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory, as its livelihood was shrouded in the necessity of government secrecy.
Even the facts of this article have taken four years of intermittent research to compile. What is certain is that the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory will remain a topic of conversation among the residents of north central Georgia, and though the danger associated with the facility may have long passed, its legacy never will.

[edit on 31-1-2010 by Dawson Forest Ghost]

reply to post by DrJay1975

Radiation, hmmmmm. SC has alot of radiation hotspot too because of poor quality control and disposal errors.

whats up guys . just wanted to say what a great thread ! And is 110% TRUE . i live just 20min south off 400 from this site . its VERY visible on google earth as well . i am going to check this location out at night soon. i do have night vision goggles to help me as well so i can explore the site with min detection since it sounds like its sometimes patrolled .just want to know if anyone would like to join me. it would be kinda crappy to go sole. LMK ASAP . thanks

I am going back up there myself, but only durring daylight hours...I just waiting on a warm day!

reply to post by hexed1911


Often the words "nuclear" and "radiation" are bandied about to keep people away from investigating sites like this.

Still there may be residual radiation at this location. Take POTASSIUM IODIDE tablets a few days ahead of time to protect you from any radiation exposure. Health food stores carry it.

Originally posted by insidedawson
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

 

Dawson Forest is a tract of 25,000 acres owned (and still owned) by the city of Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport and Lockheed. That's bizarre in itself. It is divided into 2 tracts - a 10,000 & 15,000 acre. It is run by the Georgia Wildlife Mgt and is dedicated to wildlife and re-forestation.

rail-road system throughout the site mainly used for rocket transmittal.

Most of what you post is correct but not all.

The City of Atlanta is the sole owner of the property. Lockhead has nothing to do with the property anymore and hasn’t since 1972. The city purchased the property for a second airport location and has yet to build on the property. The Georgia Forestry Commission (GFC) manages the 10,000 acre City Tract but does have an agreement with Georgia DNR for law enforcement and recreation use. It’s managed as a Multiple Use Recreation Area and GFC is responsible for access, burning, and timber management. The remaining 15,000 acres of Dawson Forest is owned by the State of Georgia and is managed solely by Georgia DNR.

The rail system was used to transport radioactive material from the reactor to the Hot Cell building. It wasn’t for transportation of rockets. As you stated, the place was never a "Base" it was a research lab. "Nothing more, nothing less". You are also correct in that the area is not being used for some top secret govt. work. It’s funny how people come to actually believe a public use area would be used to conduct secret govt business.




[edit on 15-2-2010 by Big Piney]

Originally posted by A-E-I-Owned-You
Just read the entire thread. Epic. I wish I lived in GA. :/

Nah, my wife and I drove out there a while back. There's nothing there to see, really. Just some folks out riding horses, scrub pines, used condoms, ticks and chiggers. All of the "cool"-type stuff was destroyed a long time ago. All you can really see is the old concrete buttresses. Quite a buzzkill.

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my boy friend and i take his jeep and go ridding around there all the time the other day we decided to go walkin, we walked down a trail that was closed off and found a chiminy old stone one and there were flowers that are normally planted out side of an office complex or something planted in rows about 100 feet from the chiminy it was very interesting to me.

this is a great thread...I love to hear about things like this...wouldn't it be great to go in there and find out what those people were doing fourty years ago....it would be a glimpse of the magnitude of what things are like today...