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Originally posted by mondegreen
Even jones is carrying a news items that the government is changing its opinion that maybe acid rain was a factor in the buildings failing.
Nitric acid is very corrosive to steel and many other materials. Ozone also has the ability to form mercury paste by combining with industrial pollutants such as in industrial cities like NY. Mercury paste can corrode
aluminum very quickly and totaly.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Wtf? Does it rain inside of buildings now? They must be trying to make people into conspiracy theorists.
The outer facade was covered in aluminum panels that were more exposed to both water (rain) and city pollutants than the inner columns would have been. They stayed in good condition.
Originally posted by Marlborough Red
Better check all the other buildings round the world in case ozone has weakened them!!!!!
Originally posted by mondegreen
The outer facade did not suport the building but was hinged on the inner core where corrosive actions had to take place from years of interaction of acidic corrosive actions.
Originally posted by twitchy
Come on, Ozone?
Not trying to be facetious but if the chemistry of our atmosphere is so corrosive that it degrades construction grade steel and concrete to such hazardous conditions in forty some odd years then within the next centruy or so I guess we can expect building to start snapping in half on the breeze. Insurance rates will skyrocket . The Coliseum in Rome has held up remarkably well considering it's concrete has bathed in our corrosive atmosphere for two thousand years. Even if it did collapse, you can bet it wouldn't be symmetrical.
Yeah buildings suffer corrosion and I'm no engineer but it certainly seems to me that structural integrity isn't going to suffer much in that brief amount of time or why would people bother to build anything at all if Ozone is just going to eat it in fifty years?
Maybe we need to take a real good look at that Concrete though sure enough.
Another quantum effect is quantum entanglement. In some cases, the wave function of a system composed of many particles cannot be separated into independent wave functions, one for each particle. In that case, the particles are said to be "entangled". If quantum mechanics is correct, entangled particles can display remarkable and counter-intuitive properties. For example, a measurement made on one particle can produce, through the collapse of the total wavefunction, an instantaneous effect on other particles with which it is entangled, even if they are far apart. (This does not conflict with special relativity because information cannot be transmitted in this way.)
en.wikipedia.org... first type of quantum effect is the quantization of certain physical quantities. Quantization first arose in the mathematical formulae of Max Planck in 1900 as discussed in the introduction. Max Planck was analyzing how the radiation emitted from a body was related to its temperature, in other words, he was analyzing the energy of a wave. The energy of a wave could not be infinite, so Planck used the property of the wave we designate as the frequency to define energy. Max Planck discovered a constant that when multiplied by the frequency of any wave gives the energy of the wave.
Originally posted by Masisoar
This is a ridiculous thread, look into the observable dynamics of how the planes hit the buildings, what happened before the collapses and how they collapsed and ask relevant questions, this is by far, way out there, as with the holographic plane theory.
[edit on 10/7/2006 by Masisoar]
Galvanic Series of Metals and Alloys
More likely to be attacked
Tin More Noble
Stainless Type 430 (Passive)
Stainless Type 304 (Passive)
Stainless Type 316 (Passive)
Source: ITT Harper
Guideline for Selection of Fasteners based on Galvanic Action
303, 304, 305)
Zinc & Galvanized
Steel and Cast
A - The corrosion of the base metal is not increased by the fastener
B - The corrosion of the base metal is marginally increased by the fastener
C - The corrosion of the base metal may be markedly increased by the fastener material
D - The plating on the fastener is rapidly consumed, leaving the bare fastener metal
E - The corrosion of the fastener is increased by the base metal
Note - Surface treatment and environment can change activity
Source - "Stainless Steel Fasteners A Systematic Approach To Their Selection" AISI 502-476-18M-CP
Originally posted by Insolubrious
acidic rain or ozone would not cause the concrete to explode into pulverised fine dust particles.
Numerous incidents preceding the attack indicate many people had advance knowledge of the attack.
Stock trades bet on the fall in share values for the two airlines whose planes were used in the attack.
Put options purchases on United Airlines and American Airlines stock rose to four and 25 times normal levels in the days preceding the attack. 1 Â 2 Â
Avoidance of the Airlines, the WTC, and the Pentagon
Government officials and executives avoided the targets of the attack.
Pentagon officials canceled travel plans on September 10th. 3 Â
San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown received a warning not to fly on September 10th. 4 Â
Scotland Yard prohibited Salman Rushdie from flying on September 11th. 5 Â
Two employees of Odigo, the instant messaging service, received e-mail warnings of the attack two hours before the first assault on the WTC. 6 Â
Business executives, some of whom worked in the WTC, were in Nebraska to attend a meeting at Offutt Air Force Base hosted by billionaire Warren Buffett on the morning of September 11th. The same base would be visited later that day by George W. Bush. 7 Â