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Originally posted by aimlessly
Since the Civil War there has not been a war fought on American soil....there has not been ruin to the cities, raping and pillaging of villages so to speak.....
I think it was the intent to keep it off of American soil....but I also believe that it was meant to create a stronghold in the middle of that mess over there. Where better to place a democratic state that in the middle of syria, iran, etc.
Originally posted by aimlessly
Where better to place a democratic state that in the middle of syria, iran, etc.
"The war is a continuing public health disaster that was predictable - and should have been preventable,"
.....Medact accuses the UK and US governments and Iraqi authorities of denying "the true extent of harm" to Iraq's civilians.
It also says health relief and reconstruction efforts have been bungled through mismanagement and corruption
The Corporate-U.S. Takeover of the Iraq Economy
The story of the invasion of Iraq and theft of the Iraqi economy is part of a larger story of multi-national corporations and corporate globalization affecting much of the world. Under the guise of "free trade" economic policies that make multinational corporations more powerful than governments. Laws favoring corporations are put in place: less regulation, less commitment to specific locations, and restrictions on government preventing the shift of economic benefit away from small, local business, workers, consumers and the environment. Globalization of trade claims to benefit by trickling down the profit, but in reality it continues to funnel wealth to the top - making the rich richer, the poor poorer and the middle class class smaller.
"Freedom of the press is beginning to smell a little rotten in the new Iraq," reports Robert Fisk, listing some of the fatwas that U.S. Proconsul Paul Bremer has issued against Al Jazeera and other Arab media. "Things are no better in the American-run television and radio stations in Baghdad. The 357 journalists working from the Bremer palace grounds have twice gone on strike for more pay and have complained of censorship.
“Indeed, much of the war in Northern Ireland appeared to revolve around the use of covert killings and SAS undercover operatives who blew away IRA men in ambushes.”
After making this correct observation of how British imperialism stirred up sectarian tensions and carried out political assassinations in order to preserve its rule over its oldest colonial possession, Fisk continues, “Which does raise the question, doesn’t it, as to just what our two SAS lads were doing cruising around Basra in Arab dress with itsy-bitsy moustaches and guns? Why did no one ask? How many SAS men are in southern Iraq? Why are they there? What are their duties? What weapons do they carry? Whoops! No one asked.”
Originally posted by Mizar
terrorist now have the oppertunity to wage the war on america they have wanted as we are there and not seprated by an ocean. (Because face it a terrorist invasion is highly unlikely and terror plots are becoming harder and harder to carry out) THey are comming for all over the middle east eurpoe and india to fight the "Evil regiem" (in their minds) of the USA. They finally have the oppertunity to do the dammage that they always wanted to the US forces.
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
Personally, i understand that the government saw a threat from muslim extremists, and wanted to mediate that threat...
And i also know that the administration saw a country that had grown soft and secure in our artificial safety net...
I just think there was a better way for the administration to get what they wanted, than allow us to be attacked... (same goes for pearl harbor)
Originally posted by mr conspiracy
wait a minute.
let me get this right.
are you saying that President Bush and his administration is deliberately scarificing the lives of American soilders in order to let the terrorist take out their anger on troops rather than bring the fight to US soil?
so its like, keep them busy with US army in Iraq and Afghanistan and they will not come and blow up Americans inside United States?
Is that what you meant to say?
never thought of it that way.
nice theory. it very possible that it could be true.
but we will never know for sure. only Bush can reveal his own intentions.
Originally posted by earthtone
I don't understand your thinking on this. The U.S has created muslim extremisn in Iraq, and that is fine because the Neo-cons know they need an enemy for their war on terror which "could last a hundred years" .
And if they wanted to mediate the threat then why did they go to Afghanistan? The FBI site itself says that there is no evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.
Sectarian violence is spreading in Iraq and the security problems have become more complex than at any time since the U.S. invasion in 2003, a Pentagon report said Friday.
The report described a rising tide of sectarian violence, fed in part by interference from neighboring Iran and Syria and driven by a "vocal minority" of religious extremists who oppose the idea of a democratic Iraq.
Death squads targeting mainly Iraqi civilians are a growing problem, heightening the risk of civil war, the report said.
"Death squads and terrorists are locked in mutually reinforcing cycles of sectarian strife," the report said, adding that the Sunni-led insurgency "remains potent and viable" even as it is overshadowed by the sect-on-sect killing.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
That murderous regime the American goverment is conning you all big time and your falling for it, do you think you can really use the logic of if we hit them they wont hit us. Well firstly if you knew there was a massive invasion force that was about to attack America you would be justified to take them out. But this is not the case is it. To date no country has attacked America only groups of alleged terrorists have done so and that has been used as a pretext to invade other countries to rob them, murder its people and when they try and fight back there labelled as terrorists or insurgents.
If people want to believe that America will be safer by these actions then keep on believing it. You said you understood what Bush was giving as the rason to be in Iraq well maybe you could explain it to me because I dont believe the cover story.