Must Read: Hizbollah's Iranian electronic warfare neutralized Israeli/American EW

This is probably the most interesting peice of info I've read about Hiz-Isr conflict. The successful functioning of iranian EW system has caused so much surprise, military analysts are shocked, and US neo-cons are worried about the outcome of any future conventional wars with Iran and it is very likely that they use unconventional weapons including nuclear weapons against iranian military infrastructures, personnel, as well as civilians.

DEBKAfile Exclusive: American electronic warfare experts in Israel to find out how Hizballah’s Iranian systems neutralized Israeli EW

>DEBKA-Net-Weekly 266 first drew attention to Iran’s heavy EW investment and its successful functioning in the Lebanon War on Aug. 11, 06. This first account will be followed up in the next DNW issue out on Friday, Aug. 25.

DEBKAfile on Aug. 23 adds: The American EW experts are interested in four areas. 1. The Israeli EW systems’ failure to block Hizballah’s command and communications and the links between the Lebanese command and the Syria-based Iranian headquarters. 2. How Iranian technicians helped Hizballah eavesdrop on Israel’s communications networks and mobile telephones, including Israeli soldiers’ conversations from inside Lebanon. 3. How Iranian EW installed in Lebanese army coastal radar stations blocked the Barak anti-missile missiles aboard Israeli warships, allowing Hizballah to hit the Israeli corvette Hanith. 4. Why Israeli EW was unable to jam the military systems at the Iranian embassy in Beirut, which hosted the underground war room out of which Hassan Nasrallah and his top commanders, including Imad Mughniyeh, functioned.

From DEBKA-Net-Weekly 266:

Until the watershed date of July 12, 2006, when the Hizballah triggered the Lebanon War, Israel was accounted an important world power in the development of electronic warfare systems – so much so that a symbiotic relationship evolved for the research and development of many US and Israeli electronic warfare systems, in which a mix of complementary American and Israeli devices and methods were invested.

In combat against Hizballah, both were not only found wanting, but had been actively neutralized, so that none performed the functions for which they were designed. This poses both the US and Israel with a serious problem in a further round of the Lebanon war and any military clash with Iran.

DEBKAfile’s military sources add: Both intelligence services underestimated the tremendous effort Iran invested in state of the art electronic warfare gadgetry designed to disable American military operations in Iraq and IDF functions in Israel and Lebanon. Israel’s electronic warfare units were taken by surprise by the sophisticated protective mechanisms attached to Hizballah’s communications networks, which were discovered to be connected by optical fibers which are not susceptible to electronic jamming.

American and Israeli experts realize now that they overlooked the key feature of the naval exercise Iran staged in the Persian Gulf last April: Iran’s leap ahead in electronic warfare. They dismissed most the weapons systems as old-fashioned. But among them were the C-802 cruise missile and several electronic warfare systems, both of which turned up in the Lebanon war with deadly effect.

We shall all remember that after 1991 gulf war, the iraqi army did not pose much threat to the existence of the iranian regime, and it was the presence of us forces both in the neighbour countries (ie. qatar, bahrain, kuwait, SA) and in the persian gulf that made iranian military-politics think tanks worried and nervous.

It was then that iranians started working and implementing a new defense doctrine to counter us superior electronics warfare.

They invested in cheap but precious electronics and communication technology, and now they are a leading country in ICT, in top ten, according to the iranian official, And now they've come up with a system that could beat us-made system.

US intel about iranian military is crap, I mean they don't even know how many of their f-14s are still flying.:lol going into Iran is a trap that will lead to the fall of the great US empire.

US military without a superior EW system is like al-qaeda without OBL. :lol

Amazing stuff, isn't it?

anyone has any ideas, what EW systems could have been used by hizbollah?

Is this why US neo cons are so badly pushing for a diplomatic solution to iranian Nuke program?

Any thoughts?

Keep It Real

Are you saying that if the US and Israel attacked Iran, the US and Israel would lose?

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Are you saying that if the US and Israel attacked Iran, the US and Israel would lose?

in the end with sheer firepower the US would win
Israel would be almost rubble if they attack as Iran just have to lob all the missiles they have at them (if they strike enough at the nuclear power plant the fallout alone would be devestating)

Interesting piece proprog.

A good indicator also as to why so many 'UFO's' have been seen over iran. They are trying to guage the strength and weaknesses of the Iranian military, including all EW and C4 systems.

IF and i stress IF this story is true, then it may shed light on why iran remains defiant against America.

It really does seem that they ahve an ace or three up their sleeves. maybe, just maybe the kit is Russian and chinese designs?

Who knows?

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
A good indicator also as to why so many 'UFO's' have been seen over iran. They are trying to guage the strength and weaknesses of the Iranian military, including all EW and C4 systems.

kind of what the israelis did with the arabs
fly some UAVs and get them to show their deffences opening them for attack,
im sure Iran has sused this out and not showing what they have laid down undre cover just yet

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
A good indicator also as to why so many 'UFO's' have been seen over iran. They are trying to guage the strength and weaknesses of the Iranian military, including all EW and C4 systems.

What do you mean to say? That the UFO's seen over Iran (I don't know which ones you are talking about), is really the US?

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
A good indicator also as to why so many 'UFO's' have been seen over iran. They are trying to guage the strength and weaknesses of the Iranian military, including all EW and C4 systems.

very true. iranians did not turn on their air defenses, radars, americans had almost forgotten that they had taught iranians not to do so.

Keep It Real

On the modern battlefield, communications are the key to winning, whether it be data or analog. If the Iranians can control com, then no battle with modern technology against them will win, because our technological firepower all relies on communications.

Perhaps with all our prowess in technology, we overlook the obvious that could be quite simple to destroy, just like the story derived from the Genesis account of Babylon. For God struck down the progress of it's tower by confusing their communications so that all the work was halted and nothing could be done.

[edit on 24-8-2006 by ben91069]

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Are you saying that if the US and Israel attacked Iran, the US and Israel would lose?

Hi!

Yes, at least the lifestyle...usa, il and eu + jp, au, nz and the usual allies...

Just think about the gas prices, the cost of the war itself, the human lives cost, the polution cost, the lost alliances cost (spain is a lost allie from the last gulf war), the global instability cost, and all the other bills we would have to pay for. From what I can see, a war on the 4º or 5º largest oil producer is a loose loose situation... for everyone...

If the stupid governments of this stupid world spend the war money on research for a new way of generating electricity I´m sure the irans and iraqs and so on of this world would never be on the news.

[edit on 24/8/06 by derfred33]

Whats interesting is that in the first `gulf war` the US was selling the equipment as `battle proven` even before the end of the conflict - Iran is battle testing its kit , working out any bugs and make them more lethel - again under battle conditions.

so iran is battle testing its own equipment , against a `foe` who is as technically advanced as the US , can put a missle into the side of a warship ,fly UAV`s around giving real time data and stop the latest and greatest IAF tank`s cold.

If i was in teh pentagon i would give serious thought to NOT invading iran - as tbh , its the big `what if - what if they have long range missiles ; don`t forget that there doctrine of war is amrican circa 1979 - fast and flexible war with good kit. whereas iraq was very much preplanned everything ala the ussr.

I believe some of you need to think this through alot more!!

Thanks,
Orangetom