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reply posted on 13-8-2006 @ 04:32 PM by V Kaminski
Nice choice of hardware. What mobo? if you retain your current mobo - no problems using the old OS drive. The new machine's mobo (if different) will likely support your old HDD (likely a PATA-IDE), however your OS installation on that drive from the old box is pretty much toast on any other build.

If you can, save out all your data that you wish to keep (address book, desktop items, my docs, Offiice PST files, email dbx files, iaf, media files, favorites, etc. - anything you value) to a physical media like optical disk or another HDD, preferably both. Backup the old system to a system image file too (eg. ghost or tape), if possible.

Do your clean-build on the new box and make a system image backup copy (use a fresh drive if possible) and then you could try networking the two (new and old) together and use the "File Settings And Transfer Wizard" to import the data (works most often but not always). Some third-party import softwares do the same... had trouble with them too.

Should that fail, copy the data from the optical or HDD physical copy made from the stuff on your old box to the appropriate spots on the new OS and import the address book and PST files and other app data using the utilities for that in the application. Don't forget about "other" devices such as PDA's, many have backup utilities and/or methods to "save-out" the user files.

Just plugging in the old HDD to the new box spells disaster on XP (it might be "doable" but it would be neither pretty nor clean and without registry work)... on old WIN 95/98 systems you could do that most times, OK-ish, after removing all hardware within the Device Manager and doing a hard-shutdown.

WINXP installs are bound (via product and and user unique identifiers) at the hardware level and pick up procs, hdd, controllers, chipsets, asset numbers, slot occupancy, etc and changing any combination of more than two or three items will require the MS re-activation process (which depending on your circumstance MS could choose to deny or grant at their discretion). For more specifics hunt around for one of the MS bulletin boards or news groups populated by MCSE-types. What precisely can be changed? That's a bit fuzzy and I've had no satisfactory comprehensive explanation of "the rule" by any MS folks that I trust or MSCE's that we employ.

Also don't just plug the old drive in as a slave to copy to master (new OS drive) - Big corruption troubles with recycle bins and surprisingly "ini" files. Dates and timestamps were a problem too as I recall. You can actually "do" this but is risky as the new WINXP on the boot drive will write a new recycle bin to the old machine and mess with the "system volume information" files.

Best of luck with the new build! For the $60 or so bucks pop for a new SATA drive as newer mobo's have SATA OB as pretty much standard now. Oh yeah and remember quad-core stuff is coming Nov-Jan. and waiting might save you some coin just around the week between Xmas and New Year's, Duo stuff will be softer in price then (it is already a reasonable price but EE chips are always overpriced and very, very good).

Victor K.

[edit on 13-8-2006 by V Kaminski]


reply posted on 19-8-2006 @ 09:21 PM by AllinTheMind89
#*&$!! 4gigs is a ton! anyway, ok now that i know whats its good for...Im going to make a looong post on what you should get...all thanks to www.cyberpowerpc.com

Heres all the information (Some may be subject to change due to your preference I.E. what version of XP you want, If you need a printer, etc)

# *BASE_PRICE: [+909]

# CAS: Hot New! X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display &

Control [-42] (Silver Color)

# CASUPGRADE: NONE

# CPU: Intel® Pentium® Extreme Edition 965 Dual-Core CPU w/HT Technology
3.73GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB Cache EM64T [+896]

# CD: SONY 16X DVD-ROM [+5] (BLACK COLOR)

# CD2: Sony DWQ-120A 16x Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+6] (BLACK COLOR)

# CABLE: Round Cable Upgrade for Hard Drive, Optical Drive & Floppy Drive [+19]

# FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BLACK COLOR)

# FLASHMEDIA: None

# FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS [+54]

# HDD: 200GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive [+17]

# HDD2: 250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive -- Recommended [+85]

# IEEE_CARD: NONE

# KEYBOARD: Logitech Deluxe 104 PS/2 Keyboard (Black Office Pro Keyboard)

# MOUSE: Microsoft® IntelliMouse® Optical 1.1A USB & PS/2 Compactible [+10]

# MONITOR: ViewSonic VP2330WB 23" Wide Screen Color TFT Active Matrix WUXGA LCD Display Monitor [+990]

# MONITOR2: NONE

# MOTHERBOARD: Asus P5WD2-E Premium 975X CrossFire LGA775 1066FSB DDR2/800 Dual PCIE SATA RAID w/Dual GbLAN,USB2.0,2xIEEE1394,&7.1Audio [+136]

# MEMORY: 2GB (4x512MB) PC4200 DDR2 Dual Channel Memory [+129] (Corsair XMS Pro High Performance Memory w/ Heat Spreader & LED Lights [+63])

# MODEM: PCI 56K V.92 FAX MODEM W/ VOICE

# NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD

# OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition w/ Service Pack 2

# PPU: NONE

# PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with
High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19]

# PRINTER: EPSON Stylus C88 Color Inkjet Printer [+99]

# PRINTER_CABLE: 6-FT USB A/B Printer Cable [+15]

# POWERSUPPLY: PC Power & Cooling TURBO-COOL 850 Watt Power Supply - SLI Ready [+499]

# RAID: NONE

# RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN NEXT BUSINESS DAY [+109]

# SOFT: Microsoft® Works v8.0 [+9]

# SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS 24/7 LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

# SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

# SPEAKERS: (BLACK)"NEW" Creative Labs SBS 580 5.1 Surround Subwoofer Speaker System

# TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)

# TVRC: None

# UPS: None

# USB: Add External USB 2.0 Hub (4x USB 2.0 Ports) [+19] (BLACK COLOR)

# USBHD: NONE

# VIDEOCAMERA: NONE

# VIDEO: NEW!!! NVIDIA Geforce 7950 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express Video Card [+585]

# VIDEO2: NONE

# WNC: NONE

# WAP: NONE

# ZIP: NONE

# _PRICE: (+4631)


So for a summary: I pretty much rigged you up with the best money can buy on Video Card, Monitor, Motherboard, and many more. What I did was, click on an existing model they had, but edited to...Pretty much perfection! Haha... Tax is not included in here as I do not know where you reside Anyway, here are the links for what i've made for you.

Link 1:
www.cyberpowerpc.com...
This is for then outline and shown parts of what your going to get (picture is not what your going to get...thats the picture for the regular computer I edited)

Link 2: www.cyberpowerpc.com.../system/INF8800.asp?v=d

This link was for what i've pasted on here. Its also where you can put in tax information. As for shipping, I put on the registration form next day, because i'm sure you wouldnt want to wait many business days haha.

Anyway, hope you like it, any questions, feel free to ask...Another place to check how good the PARTS your getting are is : www.newegg.com ...Though the parts are great! Have fun!

-AITM89

[edit on 19-8-2006 by AllinTheMind89]

[edit on 19-8-2006 by AllinTheMind89]


reply posted on 19-8-2006 @ 10:21 PM by AllinTheMind89
Originally posted by semperfortis
Or for the money your planning on spending, just go buy an Alienware!

I built mine, but for what I spent, I could have had the Alienware.

(I'm building another because I'm sick)

www.alienware.com...

Semper


BLAH! ALienware is far overrated and not that great. Trust me. I mean, yes you have your opinion and I have mine. But, on many instances, I have had many friends who spent a thousands of $ dollars on an alienware, only for it to have poor connections/wiring, hardware, and such. Trust me, Cyberpowerpc is great, but, if you want to research both of them, by all means....
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