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Democrats shun party label




Topic started on 1-11-2002 @ 11:07 AM by Bob88


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I have felt this party has been in disarray for quite a while. It seems the past several years itís been comprised of most special interest groups (environmentalists, pro-abortionists, gays and lesbians, Hollywood elitists, socialists) all into one-party-fits-all type group. Additionally, weíve seen typical pro-Democrat groups support other parties, republicans get more and more support from organized labor (teamsters backing the TIPS program, in my state the Teamsters are supporting our Republican incumbent governor) etc, etc, etc. Not to mention the voter fraud and shady campaigns in Montana, NJ, GA, and shameful actions in MN - to name a few. With low voter turnout expected (which is a bad sign for Dems I would imagine ñ they wonít get the ëdefaultí votes that they seem to get) does anyone else feel this party is in trouble?



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reply posted on 1-11-2002 @ 12:32 PM by Thomas Crowne


Theteamsters ae made up primarily of hard-working traditional-minded people and even our leadership are gagging on the socialistic direction the dems have taken the last few years. Most of us would love for the republican party to quit trying to stay totally neutral on labor/corporate issues.
As far as the democratic disregard for the law of late, they just can't see how this is hurting them. Disregarding some totally brainwashed non-thinking partymembers, alot of the public is wondering if they haven't lost all sense of principles. Even the most die-hard dems that I know are having difficulty understanding the illegal stunts the Party has been trying to pull. They'd like to see a command change as much as anyone, but how can you get clinton and his cronies out of there? Money and power is too attractive to them, and where else can you get both money and power and not be a good entrepeneur other than American politics?



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reply posted on 2-11-2002 @ 06:18 AM by MidnightDStroyer



Originally posted by Thomas CrowneMoney and power is too attractive to them, and where else can you get both money and power and not be a good entrepeneur other than American politics?


Simple in theory but difficult in practice & it would take the combined effort of the entire citizen body to do it: Reduce their power by returning to the principles laid out by our Founding Fathers; Take away the greed for money by refusing to pay any more taxes (except that which would still provide for a reasonably-sized military to protect from foreign invasion instead of sending troops willy-nilly all over the planet).

The hard part would be to get the entire citizen-body to realize this & group together to do it.



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reply posted on 2-11-2002 @ 10:03 AM by Estragon


The ethnic vote and the US media tend always to help the Dems, as does the label "liberal".
Whatever problems they, or the GOP, are in ideologically, the vote tends to reflect simpler things.



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reply posted on 2-11-2002 @ 10:06 AM by Estragon


US voter apathy ,and the sheer expense of US-style politics which tends to eliminate 3rd parties, add to the general sense that actually thinking about issues would largely be a waste of effort.



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