Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
HaHaHa ... Well Well .. you silenced everyone Monsoon
I won't speak for anyone else, but personally I don't usually like to reply to such obvious fishing expeditions - however, sucker that I am...
I seem to remember Sunday, bloddy sunday...
well you don't remember it very well then do you? Bloody Sunday took place in Belfast
when Paratroopers came under fire from an IRA active service unit and 28 "civil rights protestors" were killed. The arguments rage to this day as
to who opened fire first and how many of the dead were peaceful protestors and how many something more sinister. What is not in dispute is that UK
soldiers were subjected to rocks and other missiles being thrown at them by rioters or that the IRA was present and opened fire on British troops.
Throughout the "troubles" in N. Ireland there was no state of war and British soldiers ran the risk of prosecution for murder if they acted
illegally and some were charged and jailed in controversial circumstances.
Over 3500 people died in the "troubles", over 1000 of those being members of the security forces. What may be telling given the present situation
is the fact that despite the fact that the IRA was supported and sheltered by the Irish Republic and members of that Government were allegedly
actively involved in their activities at no time did British forces invade Eire, bomb their towns, or shell their beaches. Neither did we carry out
any similar operations against those USA citizens who so freely and misguidedly funded them. We fought a long and very dirty campaign against Irish
terrorism during which major cities and civilian targets were mercilessly bombed throught the UK - yes, soldiers also made mistakes but our record
there stands up for comparison against any anti terrorist campaign.
When it comes to "stepping up to the plate" the UK can be confident that it can, and will always, be able to point to a superb record around the
world. Today we have peacekeeping forces operationg in Cyprus, Democratic Republic of Congo, Liberia, Kosovo, Sudan, Georgia and Sierra Leone,
Bosnia and Afghanistan, all working under the banner of the UN.
In 1983 we, along with much larger forces from the US, France and Italy "stepped up to the plate" in the Lebanon where many UN peacekepers lost
there lives trying to keep warring factions apart. Already in this action one Indian UN peacekeeper has died.
British forces ultimately walked away from the "plate" in the old Britsh Mandate of Palestine (mandated to us after WWII by the UN), not least
because we lost patience with having our soldiers butchered by Israeli terrorists.
In Iraq and Kuwait we have stepped up to the plate twice alongside the US and others to remove Sadaam Hussain. I won't seek to debate the rights and
wrongs of those actions here but suffice to say that once again, despite the controversy surrounding the second Gulf War both campaigns were fought at
the cost of British lives in support of UN resolutions.
Our forces have already shed much blood in the Middle East, some to help Israel and some at its hands, today we don't have the resources to continue
the work although doubtless we will be called again at some time in the future and doubtless we will respond, again. But in the mean time if all you
want is advice on how to do it properly I'm sure there would be many in Government and the armed forces who would be happy to advise.
Until then the UK requires no lectures on "stepping up to the plate" from anybody and smugness in the face of the continued death and destruction in
the Lebanon is unseemly at best.
[edit on 20-7-2006 by timeless test]