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Originally posted by ghaleon12
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on ORME or White Powder of Gold. It's a little complicated so I won't get into it much. But it has to do with elements that aren't "clustered" together.
The atoms are free floating in a way that makes them into a really fine powder. I find ORME kind of interesting because it has, from what I've read, an ancient history behind it.
And now science is perhaps understanding it more.
Some ancient civilizations beleived that this White Powder of Gold fed the light body and aided the spiritual development in humans.
Originally posted by ghaleon12
"Well, it was debunked about a hundred years ago, I think." Where have you seen that?
They call it M-state matter today and it's therorised that it could exsist.
And ancient cultures did use manna to increase spirituallity, we know this from what's written in many cultures.
The Bible even talks about it.
"The "terminal enlightenment" (or, as the Greeks called it, the gnosis) was an ideal of perpetual quest. As against the physical body, one was also reckoned to have a "light body", which similarly had to be fed so as to be nurtured and to grow. The "light body" was called the ka and, although essentially an intangible feature of life, it was said to remain active in the Afterlife. The food of the ka was light, which generated enlightenment, and the generative substance of light was the mfkzt white powder of gold."
Many believe the white powder of gold, or Manna isn't even gold but a combination of different elements. Finding out what it was that they are talking about is what I'm interested in, even if it wasn't m-state matter.
You could heat gold up to a gas but when it cooled, it wouldn't be monoatomic. And as I said, white powder of gold is just a name, it doesn't mean that it's made from gold.
And it wouldn't "react" like gold because part of m-state matter is that it doesn't and can't react with other matter. Might want to read up a bit on some of the info.
Originally posted by Byrd
Let's look at the definition of "monoatomic", for starters: "elements that are present in the gaseous state as single atoms. These elements are the noble gasses: He, Ne, Ar, Kr, Xe and Rn."
You could presumably heat gold to an inert gas and make it monoatomic. But it would be pure gold, would look like gold, would react like gold. It's not a "white powder" because gold is, well... gold.
Monoatomic elements are nothing more than elements which are chemically isolated, i.e. instead of 60 atoms of Carbon are 34 atoms of Silicon being bound together in something called a Buckministerfullerene or a knobbier version of the same. The significance lies in the fact that when a single element metal progresses from a normal metallic state to a monoatomic state, it passes through a series of chemically different states. These include:
· An alloy of numerous atoms of the same element, which exhibit all the characteristics normally associated with the metal: electrical conductivity, color, specific gravity, density, and so forth. The atom’s intrinsic temperature might be room temperature.
· A combination of significantly fewer atoms of the same element, which no longer exhibit all of the characteristics normally associated with the metal. For example, the electrical conductivity or color might change. The atom’s intrinsic temperature drops, for example, to 50 to 100 oK (or about two hundred degrees below zero oC).
· A Microcluster of far few atoms -- typically on the order of less than one hundred atoms, and as few as a dozen or so atoms. The metal characteristics begin to fall off one by one until the so-called metal is hardly recognized. The intrinsic temperature has now fallen to the range of 10 to 20 oK, only slightly above Absolute Zero.
· A Monoatomic form of the element -- in which each single atom is chemically inert and no longer possesses normal metallic characteristics; and in fact, may exhibit extraordinary properties. The atom’s intrinsic temperature is now about 1 oK, or close enough to Absolute Zero that Superconductivity is a virtually automatic condition.
A case in point is Gold. Normally a yellow metal with a precise electrical conductivity and other metallic characteristics, the metallic nature of gold begins to change as the individual gold atoms form chemical combinations of increasingly small numbers. At a microcluster stage, there might be 13 atoms of gold in a single combination. Then, dramatically, at the monoatomic state, gold becomes a forest green color, with a distinctly different chemistry. It’s electrical conductivity goes to zero even as its potential for Superconductivity becomes maximized. Monoatomic gold can exhibit substantial variations in weight, as if it were no longer fully extant in space-time.
Other elements which have many of these same properties are the Precious Metals, which include Ruthenium, Rhodium, Palladium, Silver, Osmium, Iridium, Platinum, and Gold. All of these elements have to greater or lesser degree, the same progression as gold does in continuously reducing the number of atoms chemically connected. Many of these precious elements are found in the same ore deposits, and in their monoatomic form are often referred to as the White Powder of Gold.