Africans Tortured

African Christians endure torture,harsh conditions in Saudi prison.[url=http://www.goodnewsetc.com/032MIS2.htm]
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Many More African Christians Will Be Nailed To Trees, Before The World Takes Action?
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The four Protestant Christians named above have reportedly been detained
and severely tortured because of their religious beliefs.
www.jubileecampaign.org...

Christians Tortured in Ministry of Defense facilities in Lebanon by Lebanese Forces Party
www.atour.com...

Ethiopian police 'tortured Christians'
news.bbc.co.uk...

This is how a "Peaceful" Islamic society will treat you if they take over your country!
Who will be next?

Wowzers.....where is "Amnesty International" when you need them to stand and watch this happening....all the while reporting it?......

Human rights groups are tools. They "see" what they want, they turn a blind eye to what they want....what a great place to hide if one is against human rights....

I disdain all forms of "crimes against humanity".....torture, pursecution, etc.....instead of watching and reporting, we all need to be supporting those that are actively trying to stop it, and not those 'observing' it. This is my opinion and subject to flaming, criticism, comments....etc.

Good post Walt....this is happening not only to Christians, but to all people, regardless of religious orientation. Mankind is a very destructive, not only against it's own habitat, but against itself. Man is to blame...no "God" involved here.

Peace.

regards
seekerof

Another shot to take down Islam.

Have you forgotten about the Muslims in chains over in Cuba? God only knows what they are going through.

And the Arab Muslims in Israel? They've bulldozed their houses, killed their women and children.

People of all religions have been persecuted. Christians aren't a special case because they are Christian.

Maybe if they can stop shoving down their religion forcefully, they wouldn't be persecuted.

www.amazon.com...

Talk is cheap Illmatic, show your proof!


[Edited on 12-7-03 by Walt]

Show my proof? wtf, are you kidding me or what?

Christians have Missionaries all over Africa spreading around their poison.

Originally posted by Illmatic67
Show my proof? wtf, are you kidding me or what?

Christians have Missionaries all over Africa spreading around their poison.

Poison?

My, my. You are full of hatred aren't you?
Does your religion teach you to hate other religions?

You don't like it when people point out that religious hatred comes from everywhere, yet you have posted pretty much everywhere about how Christians are persecuting Muslims.
To get indignant and base an argument on the facts that you just have, is hypocritical to say the least.

Look in the mirror. You're as much of a problem as those you despise.

Originally posted by Illmatic67
Show my proof? wtf, are you kidding me or what?

Christians have Missionaries all over Africa spreading around their poison.

i agree with you Illmatic, the Christians like to spread the so called "Good word"

As does Islam........


regards
seekerof

I'll take poison words anyday compaired to being nailed to a tree. So for Illamatic, you still have words, how long does it take you to supply proof?

With respect to Christianity, Islam and Judaism our familiarity with abuses and violations of human rights simply pertain and are more familiar due to where we live.

Buddhism had its expansionist period, with respect to legend I can be clear that the Hindu's, prior to acknowledging Buddhism, were extremely violent.

As far as Western Hemispheric Indians those were empires and its leaders were emperors.

With respect to the present and in regard to any culture what has actually changed?

Too much emphasis has been placed upon our differences, way to little upon what we have in common.

That is what is wrong.

Any thoughts?

Toltec
With respect to Christianity, Islam and Judaism our familiarity with abuses and violations of human rights simply pertain and are more familiar due to where we live.
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The point I am tryng to show is: Let those who are peace loving Muslims start to take a stand against their brothers who are commiting these attrocities! They must put up or shut up! Because while they stay silent, innocent men, women and children are being tortured and murdered for their faith. The proof of peace is on their religion.



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SeekerOf, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Have you heard about Islamic missionaries in the United States or the in Jungles of South America. Or all over Asia and Africa? No.

The point I am tryng to show is: Let those who are peace loving Muslims start to take a stand against their brothers who are commiting these attrocities! They must put up or shut up! Because while they stay silent, innocent men, women and children are being tortured and murdered for their faith. The proof of peace is on their religion.

The same with Christianity.

It's not a lie that Christianity is a masked religion. They come as lambs but leave as wolves.

What about all the persicution being done BY christians? How come no one is complaining about that?

Originally posted by NotTooHappy
What about all the persicution being done BY christians? How come no one is complaining about that?

Because it's a War on Islam, not a War on Christianity.

This has recently been issued by a #e Leader in Iraq:assyrianchristians.com...

"By The Name of God the Most Merciful and Compassionate"

Do Not Adorn Yourselves as illiterate women before Islam (From the Koran)

To This Noble Family,

We hope that the family will stand with brothers of Islam and follow the basic Islamic rules of wearing the veil and possesing honorable teachings of Islam that the Muslims have continued to follow from old times.

We are the Iraqi people, the Muslim people and do not accept any mistakes.

If not and this message will be final we will take the following actions:

1. Doing what one cannot endure (believed to be rape)
2. Killing
3. Kidnapping
4. Burning the house with its dwellers in it or exploding it.

This message is directed to the women of this family.


www.uga.edu...
The All Pakistan Minorities Alliance, representing Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Balmeek, Bheel, Maingwal, Zoarastrian, Bahai and Kelash communities, has compiled a "catalogue of terror" on attacks against female Christians, beginning with the May 3, 2000, gang rape of eight Christian girls by militant Muslims near Lahore.

christianactionforisrael.org...
Threats against another Muslim convert to Christianity proved all too real in November as a radical Islamist drove into his village near Nablus and, according to several eyewitness accounts, intentionally swerved onto the sidewalk to hit his eight-year-old daughter.

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NotTooHappy

What about all the persicution being done BY christians? How come no one is complaining about that?
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So where is you proof?

Originally posted by Illmatic67
SeekerOf, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Have you heard about Islamic missionaries in the United States or the in Jungles of South America. Or all over Asia and Africa? No.

The point I am tryng to show is: Let those who are peace loving Muslims start to take a stand against their brothers who are commiting these attrocities! They must put up or shut up! Because while they stay silent, innocent men, women and children are being tortured and murdered for their faith. The proof of peace is on their religion.

The same with Christianity.

It's not a lie that Christianity is a masked religion. They come as lambs but leave as wolves.

I know enough to know this:
Islam is not a religion of "peace"......
Any more thoughts or 'corrections' Illmatic?

regards
seekerof

Here this,
I have this Women freind who had Gone out on a date with a Muslim freind of mine who seemed very nice, but i never knew him well enough.
They had a wonderfull date.

When they date had ended he drove her home, parked infront of her house and she generously said "goodbye"
and he said that she should stay for another minute, she never hesitated and said sure.

For the next hour he lectured her on how she had the chosen the wrong path( Mormon) and would have to convert to Islam in order to continue dating him.
He also went on a bashing spree of Christians.

I have heard many stories like this over and over,
I once had recieved an email from a freind in england, reagarding an article posted by a Mosque stating the ways to convert Sikh women.

See thier is this ongoing war between Sikhs and Muslims in england, Im not sure why though not being from thier.
Iv just heard stories from freinds and family of how Muslims teenagers try to convert young sikh women to Islam.

This is not to say that all Islamic people are the same and feel the same way.
I have very loyal Islamic freinds who would never think of doing any of the above.
I find it pathetic that you could bash Islam so bluntly without any proof other than some isolated incidents.

And Islam is not he the only religion out thier on a race to convert the world.

Wait around a couple of days and im sure some young boys in black will come to your door offering passages of the Bible and what you may have it.
But this is not to say that all Christians are the same and feel the same way.

Every religion has this rouge members out to change the world via negative means.

Deep

Zerodeep when you refer to "young boys in black" you most likely mean missionaries for the Latter Day Saints (LDS or Mormons). Please note that there exist extreme differences in doctrine btween the LDS and mainstream Christians as to the point where it can be considered doubtful if the Mormons can be called Christian.

That is who they are actually, I was not sure exactly what certain sect the belonged too.

I have some morman freinds who and they dont seem to agree with what these certain members do.
Deep

By the way Zerodeep, I know quite of few manuscripts were lost in the Library fire of 1984. Had copies been made of them? Or are the contents lost to history?