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posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 10:39 AM
I thought I would post some RATS XFILE storys here. Whether these programs are specifically targeted and sponsered programs is unforseen. NEver the less, they exist.

And now I bring you. RATS Belive it or not.

US Government Experiments
On Children During
The Cold War

The government has admitted wrong doing in the Tuskegee Experiments, where poor black man were allowed to go untreated for their syphilis so the government could study the effects. Best remembered are the atomic tests on 2584 military personnel in the Nevada desert in 1953. Less known were such experiments as the feeding of radioactive cereal in the 1940s and 1950s to young male science club members who were institutionalized at the Fernald School in Massachusetts. The researchers had little experience with radionuclides in humans; consequently this approach to medical investigation gave them that opportunity. The parents, as well as the children, were simply told they were being fed a diet rich in iron.

Dont drink your tap water. Drink Spring water and as some of you already know. Just because it says spring water, doesnt mean it isnt tap water.

posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 12:24 PM
just a note, don't believe everything you read on

posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 03:31 PM
Some of the very same Nazi doctors who worked in mental institutions before WWII, deciding whether mentally deficient children should be sterilized or killed because of their defective genes, also perfomed horrendous experiments in the death camps. Their medical expertise, along with hundreds of Nazi scientists was considered so vital to the "Cold War" effort that they would be brought into the United States and Canada to work side by side with some of the greatest, but most perverse minds the 20th century would ever see.

Some of the article, like the stuff quoted above, is true. But as with everything on Rense it is to taken with the upmost caution. Most of th storys on rense seem to be unsuported by any clear evidence and are merely rumours or storys pretty much.

posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 05:39 PM
And the haulocost never happend.

The three storys mentioned above are verifiable.

The treatment for the poor black men who had syphilis. 3 months of pennicilian. Which they were denied.

More to come on RATS, Belive it or not.

Next up. Black men in prison paid a small pitence in prison for burn and teeth experiments.

posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 05:48 PM
Hey I love my country as much as the next guy but how much difference can one person make. On a forum like this, you can make some posts. People can research them or maybe you will see a special on PBS or the history channel.

You can talk to people but some people will invetibley laugh. Than goto the corner Bar to numb the pain that is the truth of our existance.

The best one can hope for is a roadpost to the future. Those that ignore hostory are doomed to repeat its mistakes.

The experiments in this article were paid for by DOW chemical, Johnson and Johnson. They were edorsed by our government, for the simple fact that it took place in government owned, runed and partially subsidized facilities.

The simple fact that I live in a city with 400,000 angy black people, I think insures me a certain level of safety.

AP National

Inmates Sue Over Medical Studies

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Allen Hornblum's first job out of graduate school
in 1971 was teaching literacy at Philadelphia's Holmesburg Prison.

Inside the imposing walls, he says he was shocked to see dozens of
inmates with adhesive tape on their faces, their arms and their backs.

At first he thought there had been a knife fight, but he soon learned
that the bandages betrayed widespread medical experiments that had gone
on for 23 years inside the
city-run prison.

Hornblum's 1998 book, ''Acres of Skin,'' explored the physical and
psychological effects of the testing and inspired a lawsuit filed this
week in Philadelphia on behalf of 298 former inmates.

The lawsuit claims the testing exposed the inmates to infectious
diseases, radiation, dioxin and psychotropic drugs -- all without their
informed consent.

It names as defendants the city of Philadelphia; Dr. Albert Kligman, a
University of Pennsylvania dermatologist who conducted much of the
research and is credited with developing the acne and anti-wrinkle
treatment Retin A; the university; and drug makers Johnson & Johnson and
the Dow Chemical Co., whose products were allegedly used on inmates.

Kligman, who is now in his 80s but keeps an office at the university,
did not return a call seeking comment Wednesday. The university declined
to comment on the lawsuit, and officials for the city and Dow Chemical
did not immediately return telephone calls.

Johnson & Johnson confirmed that it had tested cosmetic and skin-care
products on inmates at Holmsburg during the late 1960s and early 1970s.
But it said none of the ingredients cited in the part of the lawsuit it
had seen were used in the company's products.

Using inmates for testing was common practice during the 1950s and
1960s, but it is now frowned on by the university, University of
Pennsylvania spokeswoman Rebecca Harmon said.

While medical testing took place in other prisons, Holmesburg was
well-known among scientists because of Kligman's research and because of
the prison's willingness to have its inmates tested in exchange for
annual fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, Hornblum said. Most
of the inmates involved were black men and relatively uneducated.

''There are men who do have cancer, severe lung problems, all sorts of
maladies,'' Hornblum said. ''I am not a doctor, so I can't confirm that
there is a direct linkage. You need to have some serious epidemiological
studies, but no one has ever been interested.''

The inmates' attorney, Thomas Nocella, said the inmates received only a
dollar or two a day to be used as subjects for lucrative commercial
product testing. Since they did not know what drugs they were being
given, they could not have given informed consent, even if they signed
waivers, he said.

''As human beings, they want an apology for being treated the way they
were treated back then. Secondly, they want some kind of assurance that
medical treatment will be available to them,'' Nocella said. The
lawsuit, filed Philadelphia Common Pleas Court, seeks $50,000 in damages
from each defendant.

The medical testing at Holmesburg began in 1951 and didn't end until
1974, when it was banned, said Hornblum, now an adjunct professor at
Temple University. The ban was prompted by congressional hearings into
allegedly coerced medical experimentation, including Tuskegee University
tests that infected black men with syphilis
A few Holmesburg inmates sued the university and the city in 1984, and
settled for sums in the $20,000 to $40,000 range. Holmesburg was
closed in 1995.

posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 05:59 PM
The purpose of the RATS FILES is to offer irrifutable evidence that atrocities have gone on in Amerika right under our noses. As with all ATS Artikles, informtation is based, some on fact, some unsubstantiated. You decide if the facts substantiate the unsubstantiated or if the facts are opnions. AS always disinformation is the tool of the CIA and other agencies.

Beyond that, %80 of all communication is non verbal. So the next time you see Bush Making a funny face. You decide if hes smirking, as if to pull one over the Amerikan peoples eyes.

Cereal suit pending

BOSTON -- Radioactive cereal fed to 15 children at a state home for the retarded during the 1940s and '50s was intended to give Quaker Oats an advantage over rival Cream of Wheat, a lawsuit contends.

The federal lawsuit against the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Quaker Oats and several doctors at the Fernald School in Waltham was filed last week on behalf of the children used as secret test subjects.

The children, according to the lawsuit, were told they were part of a science club to trick them into participating and some were exposed to more radiation than federal limits allow, though there have been no ill effects.

Michael Mattchen, the lawyer who filed the lawsuit, said much of the research done at Fernald was for the commercial benefit of Quaker Oats.

Small amounts of calcium and iron tagged with radioactive tracers were put in the boys' cereal, allowing researchers to track the absorption of those nutrients as the oatmeal was digested.

"What was the genesis of these particular experiments? It seems simply to be what are the relative benefits of oatmeal and Cream of Wheat," Mattchen said. "There was an utter failure to treat these kids with any human decency."

Some experiments were carried out during the Cold War for military or medical purposes, but Mattchen said the federal government had a relatively small role at the Fernald School.

A spokesman for Quaker Oats did not immediately return calls yesterday.

MIT made the radioactive isotopes and scientists from there and Harvard carried out the experiments, he said.

Last year, a state panel said the small amounts of radioactive calcium and iron eaten by 74 residents of the Fernald School had no discernible effect on their health.

But the panel said researchers violated the children's human rights.

President Clinton apologized last October to members of the "science club" at the Fernald School and to other subjects of radiation experiments sanctioned by the federal government during the same era.

His task force said the experiments at the Fernald School were unethical but the subjects were not hurt and so deserved no federal compensation.

The president of MIT has apologized for the way the Fernald experiments were done.

The lawsuit filed seeks $1 million for each test subject for suffering and $3 million in punitive damages "to deter defendants from ever again using human beings ... as guinea pigs for experimental procedures."

[Edited on 15-10-2003 by websuspect]

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