Operation Paperclip

Noticed several recent threads that mention this but when searching I didn't find a thread specifically about the Operation. DragonRider will most likely want to step in and provide some of his expertise. I found some decent links and will put down some summary. With the following links you should be able to get a clear picture on the Bush-CIA-Nazi connections. The documentation is fairly extensive.

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by Lieutenant Colonel William L. Howard

By February 1945, the Allied offensive in Europe was striking toward the heart of Germany. On January 27, 1945, with the Russian forces closing in on Berlin, the first refugee caravans had reached the outskirts of Berlin with stories of the brutal behavior of the Red Army, and a wave of terror swept through the city. Many citizens, however, still had faith in Goebbels' promise that wonder weapons would save Germany at the last moment. By then, V-2s, developed at the experimental rocket station in Peenemunde under the leadership of 34-year-old Dr. Wernher von Braun, were causing havoc in London, Antwerp and Liege.

One of the men responsible for creating these Wunderwaffen (miracle weapons), General-Major Walter Dornberger, was holding a conference in Berlin. He had just been entrusted with the job of producing a missile that would unerringly destroy and plane attempting to attack Germany. The 10 members of "Working Staff Dornberger," after reviewing the many experiments made in this field--from nonguided anti-aircraft rockets to remote-controlled missiles for launching from ground or air--concluded that their only chance for success was to concentrate on a few projects. They agreed to retain only four guided anti-aircraft rockets.

Meanwhile, in Peenemunde, at the mouth of the Oder, Dr. von Braun, the technical director of the rocket station, was holding a secret meeting with his chief assistants. Together they had developed the A-4, a rocket they regarded as the first step to space flight. But Hitler saw it as a long-range weapon, and Goebbels had renamed it the V-2, Vengeance Weapon-2.

Dr. von Braun explained to his assistants that he had called the meeting because of conflicting orders received that day--both from SS officials. SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Dr. Hans Kammler, named special commissioner of the project by Himmler, had sent a teletype directing that the rocketeers be moved to central Germany, while Himmler himself, as commander of Army Group Vistula, had dispatched a message ordering all of Dr. von Braun's engineers to join the Vokssturm, the Peoples' Army, so that they could help defend the area from the approaching Red Army.

"Germany has lost the war," Dr. von Braun continued, "but let us not forget that it was our team that first succeeded in reaching outer space. . . . We have suffered many hardships because of our faith in the great peacetime future of the rocket. Now we have an obligation. Each of the conquering powers will want our knowledge. The question we must answer is: To what country shall we entrust our heritage?"

A suggestion that they stay and turn themselves over to the Russians was emphatically rejected; they finally voted unanimously to surrender to the United States Army. The first step was to obey Dr. Kammler's order and evacuate to the west. There was no time to lose; preparations for the move would take more than two weeks., and they could already hear the faint rumble of Zhukov's artillery to the south.

In mid-November 1944, American and British forces had entered Germany and were approaching the Rhine River. By March 9, 1945, American forces had succeeded in seizing the Ludendorff Bridge at Remagen and had established a bridgehead on the east bank. Twelve supersonic V-2s were launched toward the bridge from Holland. They landed in a scattered pattern, with only one causing any appreciable damage with it hit a house 300 yards east of the bridge, killing three Americans.

Dr. von Braun, who was recovering at Nordhausen from a serious automobile accident--his torso and left arm were still encased in a huge cast--heard a report on Easter Sunday that American tanks were only a few miles to the south. He was afraid the SS would follow the Fuhrer's "scortched earth" policy and destroy the tons of precious V-2 documents and blueprints. Dr. von Braun instructed his personal aide, Dieter Huzel, and Bernhard Tessmann, chief designer of the Peenemunde test facilities, to hid the documents in a safe place.

It took three Opel trucks to carry the 14 tons of papers. The little convoy headed north on April 3 toward the nearby Harz Mountains. By the end of the day Tessmann and Huzel found an abandoned iron mine in the isolated village of Dornten. Thirty-six hours later, all of the documents had been hauled by a small locomotive into the heart of the mine and hand-carried into the powder magazine.

On April 10, work in the underground V-2 factory at Nordhausen stopped. The rocket specialists, engineers and workers--4,500 of them--scattered to their homes, and the slave workers were returned to the nearby concentration camp.

The next morning, April 11, Task Force Welborn of the 3rd Armored Division approached Nordhausen from the north as Task Force Lovelady came in from the south. Both commanders had been alerted by Intelligence to "expect something a little unusual in the Nordhausen area." They thought at first this meant the town's concentration camp, containing about 5,000 decayed bodies. But several miles northwest of Nordhausen, in the foothills of the Harz, they ran into other prisoners in dirty striped pajamas who told them there was "something fantastic" inside the mountain.

The two commanders peered into a large tunnel and saw freight cars and trucks loaded with long, slender finned missiles. With Major William Castille, the combat command's intelligence officer, they walked into the bowels of the mountain, where they found a complex factory. V-1 and V-2 parts were laid out in orderly rows, and precision machinery stood in perfect working order.

When Colonel Holgar Toftoy, Chief of Ordnance Technical Intelligence in Paris, learned of the amazing find, he began organizing "Special Mission V-2." Its job was to evacuate 100 complete V-2s and ship them to White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico.

Dr. Wernher von Braun and his leading V-2 scientists voluntarily surrendered to the U.S. 44th Division. Almost as important was the recovery of the 14 tons of V-2 documents hidden by Tessman and Huzel in the Dornten iron mine.

Despite a slow start, Colonel Toftoy's "Special Mission V-2," led by Major James Hamill, also succeeded in its mission. One hundred complete V-2s were evacuated only hours before the Russians occupied the area. Major Hamill had been ordered to remove the rockets "without making it obvious that we had looted the place," yet, curiously, was not told that Nordhausen would be in the Soviet zone. Consequently, it never occurred to him to destroy the remaining rockets.

By April 19, 1945, the Russian high command announced that the Russian drive on Berlin had begun. By April 28, elements of the First United States Army had linked up with the Russians at Torgau. In Berlin, Hitler committed suicide on April 30 and Admiral Doenitz was placed in charge. German forces surrendered on May 7, and victory in Europe was declared.

Shortly after VE Day, Magnus von Braun, brother of Professor von Braun, was sent as an emissary to contact the American authorities and inform them that a large number of the Peenemunde scientists and technicians, who had scattered to the four winds after the collapse of the Nazi regime, were living in small villages throughout the Alps.

This was the beginning of "Operation Overcast" which was renamed Operation Paperclip. The American authorities, realizing the progress that had been made by German scientists in the field of guided missiles, saw a chance to gain from their experience and start not from scratch but from the Germans left off. Approximately 150 of the best scientists and technicians were rounded up and, after preliminary interrogation and background investigations by U.S. intelligence agencies, were offered five-year contracts to come to the United States and work for the U.S. Army. In turn, we promised to provide housing for their families, who had to remain Germany until arrangements could be made to bring them to the United States.

The first group of seven guided-missile scientists signed by contract under Operation Paperclip arrived at Fort Strong, New York, September 20, 1945, and from there were taken to Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland. Here, in the tightly guarded Industrial Area, in the midst of secret military developments of all kinds, but always with a GI escort, these scientists carried on the work began at Peenemunde.

The research at Aberdeen was concerned with the processing of German guided-missile documents captured by U.S. military forces. Here, these men scanned thousands of documents, all of the stamped "GEHEIM," the equivalent of "SECRET." It is impossible to estimate the amount of time and money saved by having these scientists and technicians available to assist us in segregating, cataloging, evaluating and translating more than 40 tons of documents.

The purpose of the project at Aberdeen was to provide Fort Bliss, Texas, and White Sands Proving Ground, where an additional 120 German scientists and technicians were working of the development and testing of guided missiles, with documents or translations thereof.

Operation Paperclip came to a fitting conclusion with the naturalization of the first group of more than 50 German scientists and technicians on November 11, 1954, in Birmingham, Alabama.

I have nothing to add here, but I'm glad someone has made this thread - I will be reading subsequent posts with interest....

intelgirl

How 'bout I throw in some cross thread connections. That way we see the whole tapestry of treason instead of just a few pieces here and there.

I noticed that DragonRider just started a new post. Let the connections begin!
Nazis, CIA, and the Gateway Societies...

I have had trouble believing the conspiracy theorys involving Bush, bin laden, Iraq, and Cheney.

Now this revelation makes the present conspiracy seem like hiding money from an xwife....

i can now see how this shyte happens... the seeming coincidences... the family connections...it is a world sized playground for selfish boys club members...
why couldn't they have just joined a frat... or get real friends?

Paperclip actually happened 3 years after the fiasco involving Prescott Bush.

So basically, we have "Americans" financing Hitler, Defeating Hitler and then taking his technology and scientists. I guess if you're going to do something do it right.

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The Hitler Project

In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush.

Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland `` Bunny '' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush.

These and other actions taken by the U.S. government in wartime were, tragically, too little and too late. President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany; in financing and managing the buildup of Nazi war industries for the conquest of Europe and war against the U.S.A.; and in the development of Nazi genocide theories and racial propaganda, with their well-known results.

it didnt matter because even taking the blue one in times like these the truth will be revealed...

uivia, i hope the people dont start going crazy when this hits the newstands...

then there's A.G. Bayren, Deutches Bank, etc etc

and this one i got snookered on:

International Organization for Migration
[German Forced Labour Compensation Programme]
17, rte des Morillons, C.P. 71
1211 Geneva 19
SWITZERLAND

ph: (41)22/592 8230
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These jokers, got valuable info, at zero cost...hopefully
not enough to pigeon hole me like the dude in 'Conspiracy Theory' movie....watch as the books & movies come to publication - as a way to 'loosen up' the targets, then-->as they become visible---> WHACK!!!

your welcome to thread this in if it has merit with your expose'

s/riff raff

Von Braun: Moving to the U.S.



On June 20, 1945, U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull approved the transfer of von Braun's German rocket specialists. This transfer was known as Operation Paperclip because, of the large number of Germans stationed at Army Ordnance, the paperwork of those selected to come to the United States were indicated by paperclips.

They arrived in the United States at New Castle Army Air Base, just south of Wilmington, DE. Afterwards, they were flown to Boston, and then taken by boat to an Army Intelligence Service post at Fort Strong in Boston Harbor. Later, with the exception of von Braun, the men were transferred to Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland to sort out the Peenemunde documents. Those documents would enable the scientists to continue their rocketry experiments where they had left off.

Finally, von Braun and the 126 Peenemunders were transferred to their new home at Fort Bliss, Texas, a large Army installation just north of El Paso, under the command of Major James P. Hamill. They found themselves in a strange situation as they began their new lives in America. Because they could not leave Fort Bliss without a military escort, they sometimes referred to themselves as "PoPs", Prisoners of Peace.

While at Fort Bliss, they were tasked to train military, industrial, and university personnel in the intricacies of rockets and guided missiles and to help refurbish, assemble, and launch a number of V-2's that had been shipped from Germany to the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico. Further, they were to study the future potential of rockets for military and research applications.

liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov...

I always thought that Operation Paperclip was seriously wrong. I mean giving citizenship to Nazi war criminals? Thats just wrong. It really wasn't much of a secret conspiracy though, quite alot of people knew about it at the time.

Operation Paperclip is very real. In fact, the CIA recently denied to disclose these documents linking them with the preservation and implication of Nazi War criminals into American society.

Another really creepy angle here is all the pharmaceutical companies, adn the research and applications they are involved in that I G Farben got split up into. Bayer Asprin anyone? I have a wealth of information on this topic and will contribute on a sort of time release dosage so we don't get seekerof and muadib and others too upset.
Amazing to think that Donald Rumsfeld and Bush Co. are so intricately tied to the Pharmaceutical industry. Ah but let's start with the topic at hand...

www.haaretzdaily.com...
Documents reveal CIA recruited five of Eichmann's associates
Five of Adolph Eichmann's Nazi assistants were recruited and employed by the Central Intelligence Agency after World War II, according to recently declassified intelligence documents.
The information came to light after a lengthy battle waged by the non-profit group, The National Security Archive, whose goal is to expose government documents under the framework of the Freedom of Information Act.

Which was no easy to fight to get the kernels of information that have recently come to light...
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

The biggest untold scandal of WW2 is that GEC funded production of the V-2 rockets which rained down on London and perhaps the families of British victims should be sueing General Eelectric?

The evidence for this partly emerges from Dornberger's autobiography about privatisation of Peenemunde as Elektromechanischewerke (EMW) and it's sale to AEG. General Eelctric owned AEG and traded with Nazi firms through Lisbon throughout the War. Especially in respect of Tungsten Carbide where GEC sold Tungsten Carbide to the Allies at ten times the prices charged to the Nazis.

Dornberger disclosed that by mid 1943 Germany could not afford production of the V-2 and were on the verge of closing Peenemunde. Privatisation was the only way forward. Step in AEG with money sourced offshore through a Lisbon Bank. That money came from Wall Street finance for an Osram lamp factory which GEC was opening in Brazil. 90% of the loan was diverted through Lisbon.

Whilst interned after the war at CSDIC camp 11, Dornberger amongst many other high ranking officers was evesdropped by the British with hidden microphones. The recordings or rather reports gleaned from transcripts were compiled and used in evidence at Nuremberg War Crimes Trials. Thus from these reports comes this:

V THE ATOM BOMB
1. Generalleutnant Dornberger gave to SS-Obergruppenführer v Herff and Generalleutnant Heim the following account of German attempts to split the atom. [ Censored /remains classified until 2045]

VI THE 'V 2'
1. Generalleutnant Dornberger stated as below to Generalleutnant Heim that Hitler had publicly apologised for his failure to appreciate the full worth of the 'V 2' weapon:
Dornberger: The following incident was interesting: When I saw the Führer the last time, which was in May 1943 [ in fact July 9, 1944? ], after I'd shown him a film about us, he was quite taken aback. Formerly the Führer had always turned the V-2 business down 100%. He said: "If only I' d believed in it!" If it really comes to anything, Europe is too small for the war", and all kind of things like that. Then he said: "There are two people in my life whose pardon I must ask. One is Generalfeldmarschall v Brauchitsch, who said at the end of each report he made to me: "My Führer, think of Peenemünde!", and the other is you, general, for not having believed in you."
Heim: It's incredible that he admitted it.
Dornberger: he admitted it in front of Keitel and the others.
Heim: I believe that really is the only thing he ever admitted in his life.

2. Dornberger claimed, on the other hand, that he had begged the Führer to stop the V-weapon propaganda, because nothing more could be expected from just one ton of explosive. To this Hitler had replied that Dornberger: might not expect more but he himself certainly did.

What more was expected from the V-2?
Nuclear warheads?

The report continues:

3. Dornberger alleged in the following passage with Generalmajor Bassenge that the Russians had made offers to men concerned in "V 2" development and had undertaken to double any bids from the American side:

What bids from the american side?

7. Dornberger, in conversation with Generalmajor Bassenge, made the following miscellaneous remarks dealing with the 'V 2'. He said that:

[...after points a, b, c, continues]

d. Braun and Dornberger himself had realised at the end of December 1944 that things were going wrong and had consequently been in touch since that time with the General Electric Company through the German Embassy in Portugal, with a view to coming to some arrangement.

It was an act of high treason for Dornberger and von Braun to meet with Americans in 1944 therefore they must have been sent with the knowledge and blessings of both Kammler and Himmler. As for GEC, were they negotiating with the SS as private company officials or on behalf of the US Government?

One of the most significant shareholders in GEC during WW2 was FDR.

Then an after note which places Kammler at Oberjoch on, or about 27 April 1945:

They shot Fromm, quite recently, perhaps a fortnight before the collapse. Himmler had a persecution mania. He had me arrested on 27 Apr, for not carrying out orders. I only got away thanks to Kammler, who was also to be arrested. We both drove off to Garmisch.

From where at that time Kammler could not possibly have travelled to see his wife in the Tyrol without having crossed paths with Boris Pash and ALSOS.

As if this was not enough one of the paperclip scientists taken to Fort Bliss Texas was Prof Hans Hueter, whom according to the OSS was responsible for a secret project to adapt the V-2 for nuclear warheads. Another was Dr Erich Regener who developed a sealed re-entry capsule.

USA bought itself an ICBM project in 1943 when it funded the V-2 project.

alien stories are mostly cover ups for operation paperlicp, experiments with nazi technology (wing only bomber the B2) and human experiments (alien abduction)

Originally posted by Cassius666
alien stories are mostly cover ups for operation paperlicp, experiments with nazi technology (wing only bomber the B2) and human experiments (alien abduction)

Absolutely correct. Aliens and UFOs were disinformation to draw attention away from technologies harvested following WW2. Likewise anti-gravity claims are a major distraction from scholarly research into the Nazi Bell.

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Nazi war criminals? I believe there is a misunderstanding here..
Operation Paperclip did not consist of any of those who comitted crime in the name of the National Socialist Government.
Those men were scientists, most of whom were enemies to the NSDAP's political views, and were forced by the Nazis to continue their subject of experteese for them.

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paperclip had his reasons. THe nazi scientists were useful. They didnt care of what they did, they cared of what they could do with their knowledge to bring profits to america.