Jill Carroll released!

Just in, from the Christian Science Monitor:

Jill Carroll, the American journalist that was kidnapped on January 7, has been released. Further details as they become available.

Great news!

where link? where at?

I hope its true but cant see anything on the CSM Website.

How did you get the information - I know her twin sister made an appeal
for her release yesterday.

It's the top story on Fox News right now.

Okay its true !

Have just heard on ours news (BBC) that her father has confirmed her release today so thats great news.

Great news. Her family must be filled with joy right now.

Here's a link to the story on cnn.

www.cnn.com...

One thing to note is that the US did not cave into the kidnapper's demands to release all Iraqi women being held in Iraqi prisons. Sometimes, the policy of not negotiating with terrorists seems to bear fruit.

Such fantastic news to wake up to!!!!!!!

The CSM is located in my hometown, so i am just overjoyed this ended well.

edit- here's a link from boston.com:

www.boston.com

[edit on 30-3-2006 by negativenihil]

Mod Edit: Truncated Link Of Great Length.

[edit on 30/3/2006 by Mirthful Me]

What a way to start my day, this is great news indeed. I can't help but wonder about the circumstances of her release. Did they get word of the U.S. closing in? Did a cleric (muslim or otherwise) convince them that the fallout was not worth it? Or is our negotiating strategy just now being comprehended? These aren't kind fellows, remember, the article mentions that her translator was shot twice in the head. On that note, don't forget to read to the end of the article.

Lynn Tehini, head of the Middle East and North African desk of Reporters Without Borders in Paris, France, said three journalists -- all Iraqis -- remain captive and the group will continue to work for their freedom.

They are Ali Abdullah Fayad of the triweekly al Safir, who was kidnapped by an unknown group in Kut, southeast of Baghdad, on March 21; and TV reporter Reem Zeid and her colleague, Marwan Khazaal, with Iraqi station Al-Sumariya.

Zeid and Khazaal were kidnapped by four gunmen after leaving a news conference at the headquarters of the Iraqi Islamic Party in Baghdad on February 1.

CNN

Here's hoping everyone gets to go home soon

[edit on 30-3-2006 by TheGoodDoctorFunk]

That's great news!

I was almost sure they were going to turn her into a Pez dispenser.

Peace

Superb news. Good to know the insurgents have some, if any, heart in them.

Originally posted by jsobecky
One thing to note is that the US did not cave into the kidnapper's demands to release all Iraqi women being held in Iraqi prisons. Sometimes, the policy of not negotiating with terrorists seems to bear fruit.

But not doing so may have delayed Carroll's release for months.

You've got a valid point, but as is the real world, not everything is what it seems. And considering Carroll was released, that point you made above doesn't seem to matter much at all.

Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo

Originally posted by jsobecky
One thing to note is that the US did not cave into the kidnapper's demands to release all Iraqi women being held in Iraqi prisons. Sometimes, the policy of not negotiating with terrorists seems to bear fruit.

But not doing so may have delayed Carroll's release for months.

Yes but what message would have been sent had we negotiated with them?

Regardless of why she was released, the good news is that she is now free.

Originally posted by jsobecky
Yes but what message would have been sent had we negotiated with them?

Regardless of why she was released, the good news is that she is now free.

See, this is what I despise about the whole "we don't negotiate with terrorists" rhetoric. Why? Well, its rhetoric. Its a principle to live by, that says we're not gonna be coerced by thugs or people who use excessive and unnecessary violence to achieve their aims. And its quite a noble principle.

However, in the real world, the way things play out is anything but simple or in principle. So in the case of Jill Carroll, this showed that to the U.S. government, maintaining a principle that is really just rhetoric and doctrine and really has no real-world pay-offs (at least no proven pay-offs) was far more important than the life of an innocent American who was there to help the Iraqi people because nobody else was. Which of the two was more noble? That's for each person to decide, but it is definitely worth thinking about.

Winning is really a state of mind. If you've won in your heart and your mind, then those physical victories are pretty meaningless.

[edit on 30-3-2006 by sweatmonicaIdo]

Miss Carroll says she was 'treated very well' during 3-month ordeal.

It seems the kidnappers behaviour was better than American Marines.

Shame on us for allowing our leaders to conduct sessions of abuse and torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

Originally posted by mr conspiracy

Miss Carroll says she was 'treated very well' during 3-month ordeal.

It seems the kidnappers behaviour was better than American Marines.

Shame on us for allowing our leaders to conduct sessions of abuse and torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

Yeah, we're so mean. Let's not bring up the fact that her interpreter was shot twice in the head. Her kidnapper's behavior was so much better than American Marines.

Kidnappers are freelancers, they are outlaws, there is nothing to regulate their behavior. Marines act under offical orders of the government. this makes them worse than kidnappers.

Marines too shot and killed people in their custody.

they tortured them to death man !!

thats evil.

www.cbsnews.com...

www.usatoday.com...

Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
So in the case of Jill Carroll, this showed that to the U.S. government, maintaining a principle that is really just rhetoric and doctrine and really has no real-world pay-offs (at least no proven pay-offs) was far more important than the life of an innocent American who was there to help the Iraqi people because nobody else was.

And the first time the hostage takers get what they demand, every other innocent American who is there to help the Iraqi people without heavy guard will be kidnapped, and if we didn't give into their demands again, they would be executed more quickly because they know it's the fear of that happening that got them what they wanted last time, so they would definitely step it up a notch.

However if they see it's not getting them anywhere, and increasing the scorn of their religious leaders and those who they need to at least tolerate their presence in a given area, as well as having to feed and guard the prisoner, it's not gonna be worth it to them, as we're seeing now. They're more likely to be released, and other kidnappings are less likely to occur.

[edit on 31-3-2006 by 27jd]