NEWS: Sandra Day O'Connor Fears U.S. Dictatorship

Very cute, Muaddib. One for you.

Jso, irregardless of what you think, lots of people use this and its becoming acceptable.

Marg, you are absolutely right. Too much power under this administration, the theft of the votes all thanks to the malfunctioning Diabold and too many nutty people who dont care.

Bring it on.

why did they declare independance????.............

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!

can we declare independance from the spendthrifts in washington now, please?

Originally posted by Muaddib
Oh, hey Regen perhaps you wanted this one to win.

Kerry is a freaking spendthrift skull and bones nutbag too!
Between him and Fat Drunkard Ted not sure whose
the worse smelling cow pie in Taxachusetts.

Bush is spending $9 billion/month to combat the evil-doers.
How much do you think the evil-doers are spending?

Freaking kleptocratic fiscally irresponsible kooks! Heading for dictatorship is dead on, cause when this fiat fraud dung hits the economic fan they're going to need a tolatarian regime to stem a revolt.

Here's one of mine I made about Kerry, so have a cigar:
hometown.aol.com...

Posted satire here too in regards to many nutbag democrats:
www.freerepublic.com...

Did you bother to read this yet?
ATS-Bush and Clinton. The Two Headed Coin.

I don't affiliate myself with any kook camps, so what's your excuse?



[edit on 20-3-2006 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by Regenmacher
Irregardless, maybe you should stick to the topic rather than attempting to play grammar gestapo,
considering G Dumbya Bush butchers the King's english.

Sounds like a plan, as long as you knock off the judging of other people's abilities. Don't thow out cheap shots and then act all pure and innocent when someone responds.

Jsobecky, I left it vague intentionally just to see what your level of comphrension was and whether you had the ability to encompass a macroview. You have verified my assumptions.

Originally posted by Regenmacher
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Did you bother to read this yet?
ATS-Bush and Clinton. The Two Headed Coin.

Aaah, right, when changing the opinion of the people about a certain head of state doesn't work, try involving other administrations too, even though they had quite different policies...that's just a small oversight.....

Originally posted by Regenmacher
I don't affiliate myself with any kook camps, so what's your excuse?

My excuse?...hummm...... Perhaps you forgot we were attacked in 9/11, and trying to blame the government is not going to work, we have already gone over the evidence and most of the "real" evidence points to the fact that it was Islamic terrorists who made those attacks.... Just like Islamic extremists attacked Spain in 3/11, just like Islamic extremists attacked Britain in 7/11, just like Islamic extremists have been exterminating black and white Christians, and then, after they thought they did their job, they started attacking non-Muslim blacks.

In total since 1983 until present day from 2-4 million people have been murdered by Islamic extremists who were backed by an Islamic extremist country in south Africa alone. There are such examples all over the world, yet some Americans, and Europeans, cannot for the life of them fanthom why Islamic extremists would want to kill them and their families....so, some people with their own political agenda try to place the blame on the government.... who is more likely to believe these wild rantings?.... The Americans and Europeans who believe that in the 21st Century everyone must love peace, there is nothing more than peace in the world, and these same people don't believe that Islamic extremists will cause any harm to them...

I mean, we can see how these same people still go in droves to extremist Islamic countries and believe nothing will happen to them, yet more and more of them don't come back home with their heads attached to their bodies anymore.... I do hope that they understand now whereever their spirits are residing what is happening in the world. May they rest in peace.

Anyways, I make my own choices and decisions according to the facts, what's your excuse?

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[edit on 20-3-2006 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by Blaine91555
If, as many here believe, President Bush is doing all of the evil things he is accused of, it would be simple to fix. It could have been fixed at the last election. Democrats have to actually show up at the poles and vote. Not to hard. Just vote and go home and have a cold one. In most states now it is so easy it’s beyond strange that so few people vote. Turn on your dvd recorder, go vote and watch that sitcom later.

Voting is the answer? When in 2000, for a MILLION AND A HALF people, mostly minorities and poor, it was like pre-1965 America all over again? When Diebold electronic voting machines are taking over, and politicians have strange wins? (like a Republican winning in a place that had voted Democrat for like 30 years, or a guy way behind in the polls wins)

Come on, you get a receipt from the ATM, from the grocery store, but you don't get a receipt when you vote? From an electronic machine? Oh, I know, only kooks would want a receipt.

As for the topic, I have nothing to say. Like someone else said, all you have to do is look at a headline from yesterday or the day before to see we are going to be on par with Russia, China, Germany, and all the other great dictatorships of the world.

If Sandra Day O'Connor was so darn concerned ...

Why on earth did she retire and surrender her seat to the totalitarians instead of staying in place and fighting for what's right.

Originally posted by Muaddib
Aaah, right, when changing the opinion of the people about a certain head of state doesn't work, try involving other administrations too, even though they had quite different policies...that's just a small oversight.....

Anyways, I make my own choices and decisions according to the facts, what's your excuse?

Policy schmolicy, it's all the same dogma when it comes to the military industrial complex. When a nation borders on economic collapse, you make up lies and you commit fraud so you can justify going to war in order to stimulate the economy.

So it is you that better start looking at the facts, since you gave zero but impassioned Rushblow type spin bordering on fraud. Whether your actions stem from megalomania and/or inner hate is up to the shrinks to figure out, and has little to do with me changing an opinion. I have already noted by the actions of others that beating the cold dead horse of reality to dispell your ensconced world of fiction is about as likely as winning the lotto.

meglomania


Data for 1968-1997 covers only international incidents.
Data for 1998-Present covers both domestic and international incidents.
MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base

Any bozo that thinks pre-empting a war is means to a solution, has little regards or thoughts for intangibles or how to use their brains past reactionary carnality. Armchair chickenhawks in DC have made a deadly joke of our soldiers at the expense of the taxpayers to fill their cronies pockets. Invading countries isn't going to stem terrorism, and is about as much a farce as the WOD was. Sun Tzu's wisdom has been made a mockery and these kleptocrats sold us out for their own gains!



$300+ billion later, Iraq on the verge of full blown civil war while terrorist incidents escalate means the Bush adminstration is playing the public as fools.

“You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.” ~GW Bush

Iraq War Spawned Terrorism!

I already put my time in Kuwait and lost of wife because of it, so I don't need any stinking damn excuses to not side with evil, chaos and destruction for the sake of profits above people. So you go play your death's head con on some other fool.




[edit on 21-3-2006 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by 2stepsfromtop
If Sandra Day O'Connor was so darn concerned ...

Why on earth did she retire and surrender her seat to the totalitarians instead of staying in place and fighting for what's right.

Staying in and ending up like this guy is not going to do much either.



Kicking in the doors from outside the sociopath box can be more effective than staying within it and being made complacent by force or corrupted by familiarity.




[edit on 21-3-2006 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by truthseeka

Voting is the answer? When in 2000, for a MILLION AND A HALF people, mostly minorities and poor, it was like pre-1965 America all over again?

it was like pre-1965 America?..... Why because there are poor and some of these are minorities?.... Why is it that many people in minority groups make it out alright and become middle income families?....

There will always be poor people in any and every government and type of economy. Some of them are poor because they do not want to get out of the situation they are at, others are powerless because they have fallen victims of the choices they make, but we all have choices in the United States.

You want to tell us that Socialism, like the one in Europe is better than Capitalism and that the poor have more rights in those systems?.... and I'll tell you that you don't know what is happening in Europe, as we speak there is another riot being done by the poor and students....

You want to tell us that Communist countries are better and they give more rights to the poor?.... and I will tell you that I come from a Communist country and that's the biggest lie some people in the western world have accepted from the Communist agenda so that those who do not know anything about Communism fall victims to it....

Originally posted by truthseeka
When Diebold electronic voting machines are taking over, and politicians have strange wins? (like a Republican winning in a place that had voted Democrat for like 30 years

, or a guy way behind in the polls wins)

We were reporting, as it was happening in these forums the election counts... There were no "mysterious/strange wins"....

If you can prove otherwise, pull up our records, you know the ones where we were reporting what every newspaper was saying about the counts as they were coming up throughout the night, and show us these "discrepancies of strange wins".....

Several times were the votes counted and recounted, and at the end even Kerry's lawyers had to give in.....

Originally posted by truthseeka
Come on, you get a receipt from the ATM, from the grocery store, but you don't get a receipt when you vote? From an electronic machine? Oh, I know, only kooks would want a receipt.

Tell us how much have paper ballots stopped kooks from rigging elections?

Go ahead and try to tell us that with paper ballots there have never been attempts by some people to rig elections....

Originally posted by truthseeka
As for the topic, I have nothing to say. Like someone else said, all you have to do is look at a headline from yesterday or the day before to see we are going to be on par with Russia, China, Germany, and all the other great dictatorships of the world.

Of course you have nothing to say.... In China they still kill people for being pro-democratic and for being religious among some other reasons.... In China you wouldn't be able to read this site unless you work for the CCP as damage control....

In Russia there are no independent news media and no media can criticize Putin... In Russia it's citizens can't vote for governors and only Putin and the KGB, I mean the Russian mafia, err, the Kremlin are the only ones who can decide what governors should be put in office...

As for Germany, Hitler was a Socialist Nationalist....he, and his whole regime hated any hint of democracy and wanted to destroy minorities.... According to Hitler's doctrine minorities weakened Germany, and they had to go.... No minority group was represented in Hitler's regime....

So, of course you have nothing to say, you are obviously showing that you don't know what you are talking about because the United States is nothing like any of those countries....

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"He has refused his Assent to Laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the right of Representation in the legislature; a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing, with manly firmness, his invasions on the rights of the People.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of Peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his protection, and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens, taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions, We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free People. "


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so, this is those actions that the king was doing that the people of the conlonies saw as unacceptable....."against their constitution"....

if you ask me, a case could be made against all three branches of the government on at least a few of these matters.....but I particuarly like this one....

"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. "


for some reason, that new medicaid drug law comes to mind....

originally posted by dawnstar
if you ask me, a case could be made against all three branches of the government on at least a few of these matters.....but I particuarly like this one....

"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. "


for some reason, that new medicaid drug law comes to mind....

Thank goodness for high tech, etc? Computers, fax machines and the like give us instant access to all our records in the blink of an eye these days.

Even Scalia speaks out. The two extremes of the Supreme Court are agreed on one thing, it would seem, and that is that Congress has no right to dictate to the Supreme Court how it should use foreign law in its rulings.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia on Thursday repeated his strong opposition to invoking foreign law in Supreme Court constitutional decisions -- but he said Congress should not legislate against the practice.

"I don't think it's any of your business," Scalia said before a lunch meeting of the National Italian American Foundation that included many members of Congress of Italian descent. "I'll be darned if I think it's up to Congress to tell us how to rule."

Scalia added, "Let us make our little mistakes, just as we let you make yours."

Scalia's blunt admonition was a new twist on one of his pet peeves about his colleagues on the Court, namely their occasional citation of foreign or international court rulings in decisions on issues including gay rights, affirmative action and the death penalty for juveniles. As much as Scalia opposes the practice, his loyalty to the Court and its independence apparently led him to speak out against proposed legislation on the subject.

Source: biz.yahoo.com...

I think his comments at least help frame the issue as one of potential Congressional encroachment on the judiciary rather than one of the validity of comments from only one side of the political spectrum represented on the Supreme Court bench regarding the use of foreign law in our courts. What O'Connor calls the beginnnings of the road towards tyranny, Scalia identifies as "none of Congresses business."

I understand that it is the perogative of any Supreme Court Justice to resign whenever they see fit for whatever reasons they see fit. SDO simply excercised her perogative recently with her resignation. What I don't understand, however, is why a Justice, who is likely more aware of the foibles and tendencies of our President than we are, would resign knowing full well that his intent is to load the Court with partisan conservatives? If she was so concerned about the threat, why not wait out the President's term in hopes of seeing a Democrat get elected, then resign in an effort to avoid letting Bush pack the bench?

On the other hand, maybe that's exactly what she did, but she couldn't make it through two terms so she threw in the towel. Maybe she realized that based upon the 2000 election recount issue, there would never be a truly free election in this country again and the 2004 election proved it. She did vote to stop the recounts, though, but that was based upon an interpretation of laws already on the books and not a political statement for or against either candidate. Maybe that was the point where she realized that the deck was stacked against us and there was no point in trying to work the system from the inside. Who knows?