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Secret sales of UK plutonium to Israel

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posted on Mar, 10 2006 @ 10:53 AM
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All footprints of the thieves of NUKES are traceable to the arsenals of UK, France & USA.....


Those leaders of the world peace & disarmament......


Those guardians of the world against terrorism.....


Those defendants of the world working for disarmament & non-proliferation.....








The sale was made despite a warning from British intelligence that it might "make a material contribution to an Israeli weapons programme".

Under Wilson, Britain also sold Israel tons of chemicals used to make boosted atom bombs 20 times more powerful than Hiroshima or even Hydrogen Bombs.



Full story can be read at
news.bbc.co.uk...

Very interesting and informative.....


IAEA..........?..........

UNSC.........?.........


Both have been ineffective and deceptive in checking the real proliferation, or were they really trying to get the DESIRED RESULTS.............






chaudri




posted on Mar, 10 2006 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by chaudri
IAEA..........?..........

UNSC.........?.........


Both have been ineffective and deceptive in checking the real proliferation, or were they really trying to get the DESIRED RESULTS.............


- Well ok, that's true in this case (and several others no doubt) but those bodies are utterly dependant upon the member countries that comprise them and the UN.

If countries like the USA, UK, France, Russia or China etc etc go behind the backs of those people and proliferate deliberately and in secret then it should come as no real surprise that the UN bodies (that rely on especially on the wealthy 'nuclear' members for expertise, funding and votes to enable them to act) can do little.

It's a real 'game' of playing both ends against the middle - especially when if it ever so much as looks like the UN bodies might get some independence or teeth certain types start on about scary 'one world government', the levels of 'corruption' they imagine going on, the weaknesses of the collective itself or simply refuse to pay the bills that enable the whole thing to function in anything like a satisfactory manner.

IMO it's mighty rich for those countries to complain about such bodies when they are in large part responsible for many of the failings, failings which, as this story shows, they themselves are directly responsible for.

However it is worth pointing out that for all that these bodies do still do excellent work, even if they cannot do - or are deliberately stopped from doing - everything.



posted on Mar, 10 2006 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey

..........- Well ok, that's true in this case (and several others no doubt) but those bodies are utterly dependant upon the member countries that comprise them and the UN.
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However it is worth pointing out that for all that these bodies do still do excellent work, even if they cannot do - or are deliberately stopped from doing - everything.




Very right.

Then why to talk of the principles?..........

The ideals?..........

The civilization?..............

The charters?.....................

annnnnnd the treaties?............



posted on Mar, 10 2006 @ 12:05 PM
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The French Reactor at Dimona was given to Israel openly if I remember correctly. When the French gave them the reactor, why didnt the French give Israel heavy water too? And also why would they need to buy it from the UK when they could have produced it themselves ? Also why were they in such a hurry to acquire plutonium when they already had the capability of enriching Uranium ? Also why need that bit of Plutonium when they had the technology to convert Uranium into Plutonium ?
And all of this happened within so short a span of time that it’s almost as if Israel was in some sort of hurry.

This tells us something about the Israel of that period; the Israelis knew that they were going to be attacked by combined Arab forces of the UAR and its allies and were preparing for such an attack. It would seem that they felt that the Jewish people could not sustain another Holocaust and any massive Arab aggression would leave them completely at the mercy of foreign powers to aid their military, they needed an guarantee and a nuke was that guarantee for survival. Fortunately the war of 1967 went well for Israel and they didn’t have to resort to more drastic measures. The documents if true tells us of the amount of hostility and mistrust that existed in the region prior to the 1967 war. Apparently, the Israelis were terrified by all the Arab propaganda and threats and had decided to prepare for a showdown. I guess the Israelis would be right to want a weapon with the Arabs having had engaged in chemical warfare in Yemen and the massive numerical superiority they had over the Israelis not to mention the active Soviet involvement in the region at that time in favor of the Arabs. All this would have made the Israelis feel isolated with neither the US nor the UK providing any open assistance towards them.

As for the role of the IAEA and the UNSC, we must not forget that nuclear proliferation was not a big priority during those years with the Cold war in full swing and the powers trying to outdo each other in every region. The UN was desperately trying to get peace in Vietnam and the Middle East was simmering with mistrust, such a time the UN would be hard pressed to identify nuclear proliferation.

As to the effects of nuclear proliferation, almost all the nations today that use nuclear technology have acquired their technology from another country at one point of time or the other with the exception of the US, UK and Germany. The Chinese got their tech from the Russians, the Israelis form the West, the Indians from the West, the Pakistanis form the Chinese, the North Koreans form the Chinese and the Iranians now form the Pakistanis. Also other nations like Japan, Australia, Norway etc have all got their technology through technology transfers from the West and built upon them, even the French as the BBC article mentions.



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