Good and Bad aliens.

i dont know any of this for sure. but my take on this is that there are good aliens, the real aliens. and the bad aliens, the ones who abduct and do experiments with. these ones i think are created by the government, and are clones of original aliens captured back in like the 40's. the government definatly has the technology to clone and programme individuals, using chips and whatnot. but anyway, i think that if aliens were truly a superior race, why would they need to bother us, they would have no need to, besides the fact that they could be possibly running out of energy sources. but if they were smart at all they would make new ones, no? i suppose u have all read about the story of the dropa, and the dropa discs. well if u havent, its basically about aliens that crash landed on earth about 12000 years ago, and couldnt repare their ship, so had to take refuge in the nereby caves. i think that possibly, humans may have alien connections, and we could have possibly desended from aliens. no joke.
and as for the government aliens, ive read about encounters with these aliens, and the abductees say that if you look into the eyes of the greys, its like looking into a computer room. they are a program designed to focus attention off the real deal. which is that aliens are a peaceful race. why would the government all of a sudden start funding these star wars programs and stuff. and the propaganda come out with all these movies about killer aliens or whatever.
if u actually think about it, what need would an intelligent alien, with technologies and capabilities WAY greater than ours, have with disrupting us? none.
tell me what u think.

I think all aliens are not that good, no matter how peaceful they may be. My reasons for that are that if the historical records of UFO activity are accurate representations of real events, it proves that these beings are here only to observe. They watched as man suffered and died from war, disease, hunger, and all other forms of human suffering.

You could mark this up to some clause of non-interference by extraterrestrials, but when you look at it from our human angle, you must recognize that they more than likely had every opportunity to step in and give aid at least once in a while. The staggering amount of years they allowed our history to continue with its many tragedies gives me much reason to suspect their motives. The mere fact that they continue to be secretive and allow our governments to confiscate their technologies probably to use against us is something I find very disturbing as well. If they really wanted to let themselves be known and dispell our government denials, they could and would do so. They holding up trying to see how long it'll take for the masses to accept them? The longer they wait, the more suspect they become in my mind.

Lab rats, an experiment, whatever you want to consider their reasoning for not helping, the mere fact that these beings place no perceptible regard for individual human suffering is unconscionable to my train of thought which gives me no reason to think they are good.

I think there is a seperation between the good and evil races. Good races would follow a strict non-interference rule to the letter. This would be due to them wanting to observe us, and watch a younger race through the years, to see if we made it. Now evil races just bent on there own ideals would give us technology, abduct humans, and any other thing you can think of.
But then why don't the good races do something, again we as a race have done this for thousands of years. Messed with races giving them things, while other people sit back and watch. Those people that sit back on watch would be saying to themselves let them learn on their own.
I do agree on one point you made Heelstone, if they wanted us to know that they are here they would. But i don't think we get suspect over this. I think as a whole we should be suspect of any new alien race until they prove their intentions to use. We are to young in this galaxy to know who to be friends with and who not to be friends with.

If this was the case then the "good" aliens may not want to risk there destruction what what may be a meaningless planet. The west doesent jump in everytime a war starts out unless it affects them,or public pressure really.

In much of this galaxy there are two main camps and most aliens fit into one or the other. The consortium is the bad guys and the confederation is the good guys.

The good guys have a policy of 'non-intervention' and they believe in service to others as a general guiding principle for existance (notice this is not socialism as we understand it).

The bad guys believe in intervention and they are primarily service to self, selfish.

Many believe that the battle is in fact on now and that it will not be something that we will see until near he end. Also the good aliens will only interfere when the entire earth or all of humanity is in peril.

I believe you are talking about the Pleadians from the Pleades star system who want to help mankind.

The good or bad issue doesn't matter. I think they feed on our consciousness more than anything else.

Ques,

good and bad doesn't matter? how is that?

the evil feed on our consciousness by the way the good do not need to do that.

For some or all, our consciousness might be considered a kind of food they depend on for their survival.

So whether or not they are good or bad, they still need to eat or perish.

*15,15*
NEO, If I'm not mistaking Questor, I believe she is referring to power.
They use our mental power (we call it knowledge, chi, etc...) to power themselves.
Basically, it doesn't matter what side you are on, the point is that you are on a side.
In a way, like the political spectrum...

- Tass *40*

Edit: Congrats on passing the twenty K mark NEO!

[Edited on 8-10-2003 by Tassadar]

I do think there must be some type of split of the races out there. Good, bad, and a gray area, which all races fall into some part of it. As for feeding on our energy(whatever you call it), i think only the bad, and some of the gray area would do this. Good races would have found a way to survive through the years already. Bad races would continue to do what they do, because it easier then finding away to continue existence in another way. Even in the gray area races there would be a few who would feed in this way.
Also i think there would only be a few races all together who feed on energy. Most i think would still have to use another bio material, or rock (if there is silicon based life), to recieve its nurnishment.

Ques,

sorry but I still have to disagree with you here,

thanks for your clarification though but I knew what you meant from your first posting.

again it is my belief and there is evidence for this that it is the evil or service to self higher entities that feed on the lower orders both physically and mentally emotionally.

the positive or service to others entities above us do not need to do this because the are connected to god's chi. The power of the universe so to speak, the power of the creational spark. Yet they maintain their connection to those of us that by freewill chose this. If anything we can draw power from them.

notice on the other hand if you belong to the evil empire that your elders will draw power from you and you can only recharge by drawing power from that below you.

Tass,

thanks man and I hope there are many more points to add to that total.

why can't more people be like you around here?

jay,

good post man.

I only saw your effort after I had posted mine.

you understand the basic principles and that will do you in good stead for what is coming up.

TheNeo,

All good posts man, and thank you for what you said. I only starting posting here very recently, and find most of the people on this site to be knowledgeable, nice, and willing to listen to what everyone has to say.
One question to you, me being so new what do you mean by the comment "that will do you in good stead for what is coming up"?
I also agree that the evil races would be a closed circuit of domance, with the overall leader of the race benefitting the most. Due to the fact that he would have the most energy to draw on(i e followers, or slaves).

First of all do a search on 2012 on the web and even on this site for that matter. That is the time of rumoured great events to befall mankind. This is not the thread to get into that too deeply.

Regarding the closed loop kind of idea you mention. Think of the dark side as those wishing to return to the days of darkness in the universe and rejecting the light. Thus they are not a part of the creation as we know it. They are part of creation of course but their desire to reject the pain of the spiritual path causes them to rejoin with the pre-creation ideal. That is what I think anyways.

*15,15*
Quick summary of what CNN won't tell you:
The OWO is still out there, yes, however the NWO (Shadow Government, not OA) wishes to keep the alien alliance silent.
The OWO did not wish to make alien alliance but did.
The OA wishes to make alien presence here on Earth public.
The NWO is mostly American yes, however, England, Spain, France, and Japan also have allied themselves with the NWO.
Russia's views are not clear, they are not as devious as the former USSR.
The Chinese lead the federation along with most of Asia and Eastern Europe.
If the prophecy is fufilled, we will see a massive shift in world power within the next three years...
If you have any question, search for 2012, or u2u me (or NEO, he is quite knowledgeable on current events)

Back to the alien issue, everyone is assuming aliens depend on psy energy and whatnot..
Could there not also be giant "bugs"?
Not all aliens will have "powers", just like not all creature on Earth are the same...

Just thoughts,
- Tass *40*

TheNeo and Tass,

Thanks and doing that search now.

Tass,

I think this topic went to just a energy based race. But i do belive that there is all different forms of life, out side our solar system. Maybe even a few with it, you never know. I belive there is also silicon based life on planets out there, besides our carbon based life. But this would be better taken to another topic altogether i belive.

Tass,

the operative question is this:

who are the bad guys?

the NWO or the OWO as we both agree they are the major manifestations of power these days.

regarding aliens or other life forms, see no reason that they cannot be of many differing types.

some are rumoured to be insectoid for example.

but there are said to be three types of physical entitites, non-souled, souled and positive and souled and negative.

obviously when you ascend from the physical for any reason you become purely a souled entity and thus you must pick a side. This process begins in the physical such that it is a long process and not necessarily a single decision made at the end (but in some cases it could be I think).

that is the nature of the game that I know of.

*15,15*
My oh my...
I'm not sure who the bad guys are neo.
I used to think it was the US government.
Then the Shadow Governemnt.
Then the Omega Agency.
Then the Jesuits...
Now I'm not sure who are the bad guys, I just know who everyone is.
I can't draw, but I'll try to make this sound as simple of possible...



-10....0....10

Alright pretend that number line represents moral values...
-10 is the pure evil.
10 is holy righteousness.

Now draw the model of an atom over the line...
What happens?
The line becomes impossible to decipher because it is always shifting.
Take for example the Freemasons, founded originally as the Templar.
They were founded to protect Jerusalem.
Then the Vatican excommunicated/killed all of them and they came to America under the guise of Freemasons.
In the 1800's the Templar were reinstated in America and they swere to exact vengeance on the Vatican (talk about a grudge!)
However, the Jesuit General (search for Black Pope) united all rival orders and brought them under Jesuit control (along with the Vatican).

It changes as time goes on.
I'd have to say the Omega Agencie's version of NWO are the "best" guys right now.
They want freedom of information, that's one more than the amount promised by Shadow.

It's up to you to decide who is the good guy.
I don't say I support the OA, but if I had to choose, it would be them...

- Tass *40*

Tass,

you are truly wise also,

yes the shifting sands of reality make it difficult to pin anything on anyone for very long doesn't it?

so the bad' so to speak must not necessarily be any person or even any group but an ideal or an idea.

or even something that we cannot see, as of yet.