Originally posted by Lomillialor
If Atlantic ever existed, I think it is reasonable to assume it never reached any significant degree of technological sophistication. This is because we have not found any old stockpiles of nuclear radiation waste such as would have existed had they perfected nuclear energy. This stuff has half-lives of 1000s of years, thus it is reasonable they would have left some irradiated waste for us to discover.
Also, they never perfected space travel to the degree that they ever landed on the moon. This is because, there is no evidence that they left any trash (equipment, structures, etc) on the moon the way we did when we visited there.
...no doubt in my mind;
Originally posted by speight89
What do you think?
"I find your arguments very impressive and have the impression that your hypothesis is correct. One can hardly doubt that significant shifts of the crust have taken place repeatedly and within a short time."
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Lomillialor
If Atlantic ever existed, I think it is reasonable to assume it never reached any significant degree of technological sophistication. (etc)
Why do you presume that they would have gone for the dirty energy of the nuclear reaction - rather than, say, zero-point energy, which has no such radiation issues? I'm not saying I give an extremely high probability to some of the claims about Atlantis, but I do think your logic is flawed.
Extracts from Plato's dialogues Kritias and Timaios:
(Plato: Kritias, 108e) "Let me begin by observing first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place between those who dwelt outside the Pillars of Heracles and all who dwelt within them; this war I am going to describe. Of the combatants on the one side, the city of Athens was reported to have been the leader and to have fought out the war; the combatants on the other side were commanded by the kings of Atlantis, which, as was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from hence to any part of the ocean."
(113e ff) "And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis, begat children by a mortal woman, and settled them in a part of the island, which I will describe. Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile. Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side.
In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth born primeval men of that country, whose name was Evenor, and he had a wife named Leucippe, and they had an only daughter who was called Cleito. The maiden had already reached womanhood, when her father and mother died; Poseidon fell in love with her and had intercourse with her, and breaking the ground, inclosed the hill in which she dwelt all round, making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each having its circumference equidistant every way from the centre, so that no man could get to the island, for ships and voyages were not as yet. He himself, being a god, found no difficulty in making special arrangements for the centre island, bringing up two springs of water from beneath the earth, one of warm water and the other of cold, and making every variety of food to spring up abundantly from the soil. He also begat and brought up five pairs of twin male children; and dividing the island of Atlantis into ten portions, he gave to the first-born of the eldest pair his mother's dwelling and the surrounding allotment, which was the largest and best, and made him king over the rest; the others he made princes, and gave them rule over many men, and a large territory. And he named them all; the eldest, who was the first king, he named Atlas, and after him the whole island and the ocean were called Atlantic."
(translated by Benjamin Jowett, MIT archives, online-version)
Originally posted by shihulud
About the HAB theory, even Einstein thought that Earths Crust Displacement was likey to be correct.
The evidence for such a shift in the Earths crust about 12,000 years ago is also very good. The quick freezing of large mammals in Siberia-ish with temperate plants in their stomach and temperate plants found shows that at that point the temperature dropped very very dramatically.
While on the other side (Antartica) there is evidence that rivers flowed up until very recently (cant remember exactly but around 4000 - 6000 BCE).
Couple this evidence with the ancient maps found - there's more than just the Piri Reis, theres the Oronteus Finaeus map and the Bauche map to name a few that show Antartica without and with small amounts of ice.
Originally posted by MacDonagh
Well, folk, how about Malta?
Originally posted by LightWorker13
How do we know Atlantis existed, well there is too much physical proof to support it, as well as support the existence of Lemuria. But, lets try something a bit odd in todays world....
What does your intuition say?