FEMA detention camps, illegal immigration and the coming race wars.

In 1984 the RX-84 was created to handle illegal immigration coming from the US/Mexican boarder, this order was never carried out. Why you may ask? Because it is all part of the grand scheme of allowing illegal immigration to become so bad (like it is now) that the government will institute a RACE WAR between whites/blacks and the Mexican/Hispanic illegal immigrants thus enacting Martial Law to quell the violence from a massive Race War that will result in the burning down of cities and towns (the race riots in France being a Beta Test for the things to come in America!)

There are 800 detention camps in America so far and the Halliburton subsidairy Kellogg, Brown and Root have been given a $385 Million contract to build more dention camps & processing centers in America! Why do more camps need to be built you may ask? After martial law is in effect those who are Mexican/Hispanic ethnicity will be rounded up and transported to these "detention camps" to be held indefinately under regulations in the PATRIOT ACT II while troops are sent to the US/Mexican boarder with the orders to shoot and kill anyone crossing the boarder illegally.


More information on America's detention camps (Link)

From what I understood, you seem to be saying that the US Government is allowing these Mexicans in specifically to start race wars, so as to burn down US cities and put Mexicans/Hispanics in detention centres.


First, why does the US Government want to burn down its own cities?

Second, why do possibly tens of thousands of people have to die just to get immigrants into detention centres?

Any US Federal Law experts here? Surely there's another way that doesn't involve killing citizens.

edit: Spellign

[edit on 17/2/2006 by watch_the_rocks]

Sorry watch, but its for the same reason they flew planes into their own buildings, bombed their own ATF buildings, and lied and lied to you all about weapons of mass destruction. MONEY, OIL, MONEY AND OIL.

They never will rest till they have total population control, and the best way to achieve thats through fear. You only have to look at project Northwood in the 1960's to see just how far a goverment will go to gain more and more power.

First, it was Project Northwoods, and I do happen to know about it. I have been studying that period in U.S./Soviet relations, and Cuba comes into this equation a lot.

I really don't believe that the U.S. Government would fly passenger planes into two of its tallest buildings, as well as attack its own military command centre. But, of course, this is open to and is debated. Why did the plane going for the White House miss?

Project Northwoods was drafted in a time where you lived in fear every minute of every day of a nuclear attack by the mysterious and evil Russians, and as such a Communist form of Government was an absolutely horrible thing.
So when a country not 90 miles from Florida converted to Communism, had Soviet backing, and was importing Soviet weapons, it really comes as no surprise that the US would authorize an operation like this, to me anyway. You have to remember that the U.S. Government didn't want nuclear war, but they needed to get Cuba converted from Communism, fast, as they didn't want an example of President Eisenhower's 'Domino Effect,' which would surely happen to many other Central and South American countries if Cuba were to remain Communist.

But they realized that if they attacked Cuba, Russia would be sure to react, as Russian citizens and Russian weapons were on Cuba. Also, the attack would be looked upon by other Caribbean countries and the UN/NATO alliances as a large country exercising its power agaisnt a small one, an image the U.S. definitely did not want. So, they needed a good excuse to attack Cuba. The height of this period of tension was the Cuban Missile Crisis, and it thawed out from there.

And that's enough hisrtoy.
Last night I was just trawling the net, and came across some pretty scary stuff concerning Dulce Deep Underground Base, if indeed such a place exists. I must admit, this has altered my thinking somewhat as to what the Government is capable of doing.

But racial war? I dunno . . .

oooh im so sorry i missed an 's'....

One thing I will never forget was watching those towers go down on live tv. I was sat with friends who are military EOD specialists. The first words out of their mouths when the tower fell was " Oh, hell, they shape charged the towers!" To this day, after alot of reading and questions about explosives and demolitions I am convinced that this was just that: The deliberate destruction of the towers as a means to further an aim: Fear and control.

Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.



[edit on 19-2-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

One thing I often contemplate when considering this subject is just 'who' the US government is . . . it's easy to believe there's a sewn up, seamless conspiracy orchestrated by a cult of one mind, but really that's a fantasy, life is too messy-- it's a few smart people flanked by a bunch of power hungry bunglers; and at that they probably really get their way only 20% of the time (which is surely enough to do plenty of damage to society). But when it comes to taking down those towers-- I'm saying it wasn't the hardworking, benevolent citizens who participate in and hold posts in our government, who would be horrified to realize they'd been tricked into collusion with such a plan-- but rather old ghosts of the Third Reich taking on new bodies and minds, riding the razor thin edge of deception and proper timing.

Yeah, you did miss an S, indicating that you are not competent to talk about that topic. Sorry, but I'm a stickler for accuracy.

I presumed they shaped-charged the building as well, I must admit, when I first saw the footage.
The fact that there was no major outward explosion, but support columns and struts were still fatally damaged led me to this conclusion.

But them after watching and reading just so much material, it turns out that the buildings had a lot of design flaws. But I claim to be no expert, and there must be at least 50 other threads arguing this exact same thing.

Of course, I am open to this 'fear & control' option as well. It would seem that bombing these two towers, pinnacles of industrial and economic America, would be an almost perfect way to strike fear into the hearts of Mr. and Mrs. Citizen, of another terrorist attack, that is. But why do you want them scared? That's the bit I don't understand. To further America's war effort in the Mid-East?

edit: Ha ha! No more embarrasment!

[edit on 19/2/2006 by watch_the_rocks]

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Yeah, you did miss an S, indicating that you are not competent to talk about that topic. Sorry, but I'm a stickler for accuracy.

...pinacles of industrial and economic America...
...of another terroist attack...

Emphasis added

Oh, the irony!

Sorry, just couldn't help myself

[edit on 2/19/2006 by eaglewingz]

I have predicted for the last couple of years that a race war between illegals and citizens was inevitable. Our own government is screwing over American citizens by rewarding illegals with jobs, healthcare and education instead of deportation. And then you have many of the people themselves who don't even try to hide their contempt and resentment toward America and it's citizens. For example, a monumental litter and dumping problem among the Hispanic communities of the bay area demonstrates this blatant disrespect for our laws and our country.

Yes animosity is definitely mounting. And I for one am at a loss to understanding the misguided Mexican pride for a corrupt country that has the nothing to offer them, then biting the hand that feeds them. It's pathetic!

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
why does the US Government want to burn down its own cities?

For the same reason there are huge question marks hanging over whether they allowed 9/11 and Pearl Harbour to happen, in a Project Northwoods-like scenario - so that they can use the situation to their advantage, for the greater good, as it were.

One thing I find with a lot of people whom I've discussed 9/11 and such topics with, is often a big barrier to believing any sort of conspiritorial involvement is the shear disbelief that that people in charge of our own country, from our own soil, would do anything so morally abhorrent and calously evil as playing a part in the premeditative murdering their own people in order to achieve another goal.

I have no problem believing this to be myself, all throughout history governments and rulers have used their own populations to fight out their battles and quests for power.

Now more than ever we seem to be being hit from every angle, from the pharmacuetical industry, demoralising popular entertainment, promotion of increasingly insulated and infantile religious dogmas, the desctruction of nature, the all-pervasive harmful chemicals and additives in food, an unquestioning and sensationalised popular media and information outlet, the baseless invasion of countries played out with bare-faced spin and propaganda....... All this and more adds up, to me, to evidence that the people that run financial, commercial and political institutions have little regard for the human cattle, regardless of which landmass they inhabit.

[edit on 19-2-2006 by VelvetSplash]

I understand your viewpoint, and I to believe that the American Government is capable of killing its own citizens, but as you said, I still have this barrier.
In fact, I'm going to spend the next week looking into this in depth, and I will come to my own conlcusion.

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
I understand your viewpoint, and I to believe that the American Government is capable of killing its own citizens, but as you said, I still have this barrier.

Believe me, they don´t have this barrier, so neither should you.

Say it aint so Joe........ Until it hits you.

Northwoods proposed direct action (in certain cases) against citizens, whereas I think 9/11 was more... assisted action. I don't want to sidetrack this into a 9/11 debate, but bear with me and I'll try and bring it back around.

I think 9/11 was planned and operated by someone else and was allowed to take place by the government, which may have required some assistance to ensure it took place without problem. I think they saw it as an opportunity and took it. At that time, I don't think they were neccessarily seriously plotting against the people, but after 9/11 I think they may be. Still, my point from the above is that I'm not sure they would, at present, themselves kill large numbers of Americans intentionally. Wheras with 9/11 they saw it as someone else doing it and them not being responsible even if they truly were for allowing it to happen.

In conclusion, the point I'm trying to make with this rambling nonsense of a post is that I don't think they're at the stage where they would order the deaths of large numbers of Americans themselves. Actually, maybe I don't have a conclusion. I hope someone else can make sense of what I said, because it doesn't make any sense to me.

How does starting a race war in Ammerica, putting hundreds of thousands of soldiers on our boarders and building detention camps help "them" make money and gain oil?

I don't see the connection.

Exactly. Having been under a kind of martial law (curfew) during the L.A. riots, I can tell you that martial law is really bad for business. There just ain't no money in it.

As a rule of thumb, you can always predict the future (or some of it, anyway), if you predict things that will make money. Nuclear holocaust? Not any time soon. Gradual but inevitable move of China to socio-capitalism? Bet on it. I feel like Nostradamus.

reply to post by American Mad Man


It's about the overall plan, Martial Law, Fema Camps.

How else do you get 30M people into Fema Camps or deported. Assume a "large" contingent of Mexicans crossing the border. The govt doesn't know who is who, so we'll throw them all into the same location (ala 1945) and we'll "sort" them out later.

Consequently "they" become the new terrorist and have to round up all brown skinned persons, or spanish surname. It happened before, it can happen again.

THe talk now is that the economy and political system in Mexico is collapsing, now you have another Pre-emptive war to secure "national Interests". Mexico is a large trade partner and a substantial (1/3) oil exporter to the US and a cheap labor source (as if you didn't know) as an alternative to Asia (China).

All of this is the guise for the North American Union. I know, conspiracy theory, I suggest you search ATS and google for recent articles on the NAU.

I'm of the opinion that everything is planned and that we are nearing the tipping point where all will be revealed.

HR 645, HR 40 and I'd expect new legislation to study the NAU as a viable "solution" to the economic problem.

IMHO

Originally posted by MadGreebo
Sorry watch, but its for the same reason they flew planes into their own buildings, bombed their own ATF buildings, and lied and lied to you all about weapons of mass destruction. MONEY, OIL, MONEY AND OIL.

They never will rest till they have total population control, and the best way to achieve thats through fear. You only have to look at project Northwood in the 1960's to see just how far a goverment will go to gain more and more power.

Why would someone want to govern a country of refugee camps? What good would having money be, if the US became a 3rd world country? Just who are these people in the government who would do such a thing? Pretty much everyone I know works for the government- in 1 capacity, or another, and they are just regular folks, who would never go along with such a fantastical scheme.

reply to post by TinFoilHatMan55

This post has numerous The Turner Diaries overtones.

reply to post by watch_the_rocks

Old formula that has worked for many years.

Problem, Reaction, Solution.

They know we would not go for patriot act 2, and they know
we would not go for huge FEMA camps all over the US setup
like the giant outdoor prisons of the civil war.

But if they can make it US vs. THEM, then it is the good old
competitive spirit.

Divide and Conquer.

The propaganda is being pimped from both directions so
both sides are being whipped into a frenzy.

Aztlan Rising

University of Texas professor

If we are too busy with an instigated disaster, then we will take
our concerns off them looting the treasury.

Houdini used misdirection as was mentioned in Swordfish,
or as some would say what you see is not always what you get.

reply to post by TinFoilHatMan55

Star and Flag, Mexico is on the verge of collapse under the drug
lords and we have the Aztlan ppl saying they are turning the
Southwest US into a new province of Mexico.

I can't believe that professor at UT is still on the pay roll.