Originally posted by point
If it is accepted that the human body is a machine, merely a vehicle of expression for the spirit /conciousness that drives it, then who or what
designed the machine? For what purpose and with what intentions in mind?
Why does there have to be someone/something that deliberately created us? From what we know about science, evolution and the universe everything in
our universe obeys a set of rules. A set of rules that the universe has obeyed as far back as we can see. Now, we might not understand some of these
rules and we definately haven't discovered all of them, but it doesn't mean we have to jump to the conclusion that someone is 'pulling the
strings' off stage.
Spirit or conciousness is not something that science can detect or quantify. This doesn't however mean that it doesn't exist. To make an analogy,
consider a being that exists in only 2 dimensions. If in this reality if a 3rd dimension exists, the 2 dimensional being is not going to be able to
percieve or measure anything in this 3rd dimension. This doesn't negate the fact that this 3rd dimension exists. It just can't been seen and obeys a
completely different set of rules to the 1st and 2nd dimension.
Now consider us. Our physical bodies exist within 3 dimensions (4 if you consider time as one but I'm going to stick with 3 to make it easier). A
further untold number of dimensions could exist, but we would not be able to measure or quantify them or anything in them. It doesn't mean they
don't exist, we are just not set up to 'see' them.
Now perhaps spirit or conciousness occupies a different dimension. We are never going to be able to detect it, or prove it using our '3 dimensional
science'. Again, this doesn't mean that the consciousness dimension doesn't exist. It will just have a certain set of rules that we can only hope
to guess at.
If you can except that our universe as we see it is, and always has been governed by a certain set of rules, then it is logical to think that if they
exist, all these other dimensions being part of the universe will be driven by a certain set of rules.
If the human body is a machine, it doesn't have to have a designer. It evolved using a set of universal 'rules'. Just as life elsewhere in the
universe has to have evolved. So you may be able to then see how consciousness has evolved in it's own dimension, under a different set of laws that
we have no idea about, and maybe never will. The idea of someone or something designing and creating us for a specific purpose or not seems
unnessecary when you look at this universal bigger picture. The universe as we see it works to certain laws and has always worked to certain laws. To
suggest that the bits of existance we don't understand or can't comprehend behave any differently, goes against logic and common sense.
God throughout history has been used as an explanation for things that man does not understand. The way everything in the universe works if you like.
I've heard the expression (God is everywhere and all around you) many times, and it's true, if you take God as a metaphor for the universe. The
spirit can still exist and life after death can still exist, without the need for a medling creator God.
The nature of the creation points to the nature of its creator.
Thats if you believe there is a creator
With the universe governed by rules, it's a little like one giant computer program. A simulation if you
like. If a creator does exist, he could have just coded the program and run it.....then the universe takes care of itself from it's birth until it's
death (if one exists). The creator doesn't have to do anything except sit back and watch
[edit on 19/2/06 by Asnivor]