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Yet this rationale neglects a fundamental law of arms proliferation. Nations seek WMD when their rivals possess them. Israel's nuclear capability has clearly fueled WMD ambitions within the Middle East. Saddam Hussein, for example, in an April 1990 speech to his military, threatened to retaliate against any Israeli nuclear attack with chemical weapons — the "poor man's atomic bomb."
Originally posted by Jakomo
I think that if they did this, Iran would JUMP at the chance to make sure they followed suit. The rest of the Middle East would then fall in line.
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Though the idea of Israel giving up nukes to appease Iran may sound rational, it is not, for the reasons I have asked and stated above.
Originally posted by Jakomo
Don't you think that Iran knows that if it did anything to Israel it would get rolled over by the UN? That so many countries around the world would sign up to invade Iran, or Syria, or Egypt, or whoever actually attacks Israel?
That's what's on their mind far more than getting nuked, I am sure.
Originally posted by Jakomo
What I love is that you slam me for what you say is "conjecture" and then you proceed to fill a few paragraphs with your own wild conjecture and then attempt to tie it all up with a grandiose statement like that poo. How do you ask a reason?
"who have for decades sought the eradication of Israel"
"wipe it off the map"
"there is no certainty that if Israel did reduce and/or eventually get rid of its nuclear arsenal, that they will not be jumped by a host of Middle Eastern nations seeking to remove Israel "from the map,""
Propaganda HO! (I am not calling you a ho, I am making a seaman's joke. You know, the crow's nest dude?)
Because it's all about poor Israel and all her mean bloodthirsty enemies who want to destroy her for no good reason. Without nukes she would be overcome by a dark turbanned horde.... Gold, man, pure gold.
Poor Israel, always the victim. They have hundreds of nuclear weapons in their arsenal because they NEED them. Because everyone wants to KILL them. For no reason other than that they are Jewish. Aw. (sniff) So tragic.
Originally posted by Jakomo
I think that if they did this, Iran would JUMP at the chance to make sure they followed suit. The rest of the Middle East would then fall in line.
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Actually, the propaganda, as you call it, can be factually backed, whereas, yours cannot. See the difference here? Apparently, not.
In the same self-assuredness you portrayed in saying what you have quoted above, Jakomo, can you assure Israel that they will not be "wiped off the face of the map" when the day comes that they have no nukes? What self-assureness and certainty do you offer other than your "I don't think..."? Your word? Good faith? The Pentagon's word and good faith?
What self-assureness can you offer that Iran will halt their nuclear weapons aspirations? Again, your word and good faith? Iran's word and good faith? The Pentagon's word and good faith?
Furthermore, lets take this and elevate it one step in regards to Iran: this article's proposal or utopian good faith idea is like suggesting that the US or Russia or China, etc. reduce and eventually giving up their nuclear arsenals to appease Iran and to prevent them from continuing on with their alleged peaceful nuclear aspirations that will undoubtedly also insure that they will acquire nuclear weapons. Maybe the Pentagon should consider setting the example? Maybe they can convince the Russians and Chinese to do likewise? I hardly doubt it, but yet, they may propose this to Israel? If they cannot convince their ownselves, the Russians, the Chinese, etc., what makes anyone think Israel is going to be convinced?
Though the idea of Israel giving up nukes to appease Iran may sound rational, it is not, for the reasons I have asked and stated above. The bottom line here is that there is no certainty that Iran will stop its nuclear ambitions, there is no certainty that if Israel did reduce and/or eventually get rid of its nuclear arsenal, that they will not be jumped by a host of Middle Eastern nations seeking to remove Israel "from the map," and there is no certainty that if the US or Russia or China dumped their entire nucelar arsenals, that Israel will be any safer and/or Iran will halt its nuclear ambitions so that peace can prevail. Nothing.
If you wish to engage in real discussion, as those questions I asked you would have insured, let me know.
Maybe the Pentagon should consider setting the example? Maybe they can convince the Russians and Chinese to do likewise? I hardly doubt it, but yet, they may propose this to Israel?
Those in Iran and other countries fear that they are minimized. They feel that they no longer had the world status they once had. They want to feel superior again.
Originally posted by Jakomo
The Pentagon commissioned a study on this in November.
A fascinating read.
I think that if they did this, Iran would JUMP at the chance to make sure they followed suit. The rest of the Middle East would then fall in line.
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