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Does Dulce really exist?

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posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 03:40 AM
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I have read through so many "Dulce reports" and seen a few poor speculated aerial photographs of "the underground base".

I believe there have been many people who have visited the Jicarella Apache Indian Reservation and there is no sign of a base. No noise, no entrances, no air ducts.

As nice as it would be to believe there is an underground base underneath the Archuleta Mesa it doesn`t seen very plausable.

If there were a photograph showing that there is in fact a base there i`ll eat my hat.

And surely the "UFO entrance" which is also supposed to be there would show up on an aerial photograph of the area.

If there are any ATS member that are located in or around Dulce, New Mexico. How about popping around the Jicarella Apache Indian Reservation with a video camera. And post your film onto ATS.

If I lived in the area I would do the same. But it`s a little difficult for myself to pop there one Saturday.

If people know of any websites or have any pictures/movies of a previous trip to the Indian Reservation. Please do post them here.

Thanks for your time.




posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 09:51 AM
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well with all the things that the government has covered up or have been secret is obvious. Area 51 at one point was a secret and the government denied its existence, but now they say.....okay okay you're right it is a secret base. If Dulce is connected to Los Alomos of coarse the government will never want that to come out. Nightmare hall is a real thing, but of coarse there is not backing proof.....i just like to believe and the governments track record is rough.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:44 AM
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Here is a link to a post that I started about this very issue and have had good response. www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 11:58 AM
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what do you guys make of the pics on this site?

people.freenet.de...



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 12:15 PM
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i have seen a few of those before but most of them are new to me. This toipc is probably my highest interest. I've read document after document and i still think it is fascinating. Good find with the pics.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 01:04 PM
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yeah, same here. and thanks. That first pic in my link looks like it was done with a computer, but most of the others look very interesting.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 01:08 PM
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I'm sure it does exist. But, I doubt that it exists in the form that it has been portrayed.



posted on Dec, 12 2005 @ 08:16 PM
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theres a video on that site too i just noticed

people.freenet.de...



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by kevo
what do you guys make of the pics on this site?

people.freenet.de...
I really hate to say this but all those pics are fake.

Heck, the 1st one is from UT 2003/2004.
You can tell by all of the powerups laying around + the walkway to the right.



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by fishmaster
Area 51 at one point was a secret and the
government denied its existence...


Actually, I think to be most accurate, the gov didn't "deny" it's
existance. ie they didn't state "there is no base". What they
did was refuse to reveal the agency responsible for the base.
In the early days, you could drive up to the edge of the dry
lake (legally) and see the facilities with the naked eye.
Then and now, it was hardly a "secret" in the sense that
some suggest Dulce is.

Entry to A-51 requires a certain level of "top secret" clearance,
but that doesn't actually mean that the facility is "secret". You can
see it from a commercial airliner on regularly scheduled flights.

There has ALWAYS been a relatively simple and legal way
for anyone to see the base. I've never seen any quotes from
the US gov stating "it doesn't exist".

I'm not really a follower of the Dulce fantasy. I don't know
if the gov has ever said "It doesn't" exist. My guess would
be that, like most things of high security nature, they simply
refuse to confirm questions of it's existance.


Sarge



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by SgtCamo

Originally posted by fishmaster
Area 51 at one point was a secret and the
government denied its existence...


Actually, I think to be most accurate, the gov didn't "deny" it's
existance. ie they didn't state "there is no base". What they
did was refuse to reveal the agency responsible for the base.


Right Sarge! The physical existance of Groom Lake has never been denied. What they did deny was who owned the base, and what it was for.

Groom Lake- It's no secret

Check out the link!

Tim



posted on Dec, 13 2005 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by kevo
what do you guys make of the pics on this site?

people.freenet.de...


Some are clearly just computer generated images. Some are real but not from Dulce but other places. The one with the tunnel boring machine I believe is from the Chunnel construction. The third one down is I think a picture from NORAD.



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