A question about planet X

If and this is a strong "if" there were a Planet X orbiting our sun every 3,600 years, How dose it remain in orbit? I'll admit I know very little about planetary science (just became intersested in the subject), but it seems to me any planet sized object with that distant an orbit would just fly off into space.

I hope this isn't a stupid question.

There isn't such a planet, and you're right -- I don't think the gravitational forces would keep it in orbit at that distance. As far as I'm aware, the 10th planet (unofficially named "Xena" with a small moon named "Gabrielle") is the most distant planetoid found... and it's got an orbital period of 557 years or so.
en.wikipedia.org...

As far as I know, even the comets (which are the farthest-ranging bodies) don't go that distance from the solar system.

Some of the long period comets have orbits upwards of a thousand years, but they have to just about kiss the Sun in order to go around. I don't think a planet would be able to maintain that sort of an orbit, it would just be too massive.

There are comets that do have open orbits though, meaning they don't come back to the Sun and escape our Solar System.

I believe that "they" believe X (that is, i guess, if you mean Nibiru) orbits between our sun and its, hypothetical, companion Nemesis.



The Sun and Nemesis are "throwing" it back and forth i guess. *shrug*

This page has a theory that explains the orbit this way:


I'm no physicist so i can't verify the veracity of that theory. I guess it's theoretically possible to have a large planet on such a "long" orbit without violating the laws of physics, specifically Newton's. But with all the satellites, probes and what-not that we send into the solar system (which require precise calculations that would be severly effected by a "hidden/unknown" companion star) i have a hard time believing we get them to go where we send them without taking the gravitational effects of this "companion star" into account, know what i mean?


If you wanna really go out there, here a link to the Flagship Nibiru Page
(emphasis Rren...good stuff)

Alot of hard science on that site, what respectable scholar could possibly deny those facts.

Thanks for the responces. I always found this one point to be a fly in the ointment as far as the planet x theory goes.

No sweat.

I don't know a whole lot about this stuff but i have done some background reading online. When most people talk about Nibiru their usually referencing Zecharia Sitchin's theories. Sitchin actually got his degree in economic history but grew up in Palestine where he gained his"profound knowledge of modern and ancient Hebrew, other Semitic and European languages, the Old Testament, and the history and archeology of the Near East." {source} (so "they" say). The big controvercy with Sitchin is in his, alledged, ability to read and properly translate the Sumerian Cuneiform script, where all other scholars have failed....."to do so properly" that is.

There's quite a few threads on ATS that discuss Sitchin and you'll see just about all the people who have some sort of educational background in archaeolgy, linguistics etc... think the guy is full of it. This site sums up, i think, the general opinion of Sitchin from his "peers": Zecharia Sitchin's Errors: An Overview. He's not exactly beloved or respected by the academic community, to say the least. I mean when they actually go through the trouble of making a "sitchiniswrong.com" site for ya...it's not looking too good for your theory. But i advocate Intelligent Design Theory, so i know that feeling.

....But i digress...

I was thinking about Nibiru this morning, and well, isn't about time to able to prove or debunk this definatively. Nibiru is supposed to be, depending on who ya ask, about four times larger than the earth. On a predictable, 3600 year, orbit. It's due back by 2012 etc., .....so my question is:

With all the information we have from the various Nibiru "theorists" can't we reasonably guesstimate how fast it's traveling? ("we" being someone smarter than me who can actually solve that mathematically )

IOW if this massive planet is hurdling towards us at high speed(10's of thousands of mph?) with an eta of <7 years shouldn't we already be picking it up? It would have to be inside of our solar system by now, yes? Cassini is still operating out at Saturn, wouldn't it be effected..noticeably so? Just seems to me it's about that time to be able to put this to rest, once and for all....provided "they" don't just push back the date (2012) when/if Nibiru don't show up of course.

Sitchin uses the data from the Tempel-1 comet gathered by NASA's Deep Impact probe as evidence for his "12th Planet Theory" {source}. I thought that was an interesting read, does anybody know any more about this?

Assume, for a moment, that "they" are correct. Nibiru is real (ET on board or not) and it's gonna be here in less than 7 years. What's the first sign, astronomically, that we should see? And more importantly, when should we start seeing the "signs". Assume even that the government already knows and is keeping the information secret. Eventually something this big is gonna start to be seen by amateur astronomers all over the globe. Long before it ever gets here...if its 7 years out, when should we be able to see it for ourselves? Seems that the "theory" of Nibiru should be proven true or false long before 2012 imo.

[edit on 8-12-2005 by Rren]