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Originally posted by USAF6933
I think in order for us to truly win the war on terror we will to make a strategic alliance with Iran
Originally posted by USAF6933
I think in order for us to truly win the war on terror we will to make a strategic alliance with Iran similar to how we had a strategic alliance with China during the cold war. ...............
.......... I have even read recent articles from good sources saying that the Bush administration is thinking about possibly forming an alliance Iran in the future. That would be a win/win scenario for the US and Iran. I know many of you would think that crazy but I think it makes all the sense in the world.
Originally posted by chaudri
Lets hope US+EU+Israel politicians get there mind bulbs on!
Too big a job for a powerful US with short-sighted president...
Lets hope no WWIII, Israel emerge as super power for salvation of USA, as USA emerged out of WWII.
Originally posted by ludaChris
The thing with China is we have trade talks coming up at the end of the month. And if enough countries in the UN are concerned with it the US could(and I do mean hypothetically) use these trade talks to convince China to change their position. And that well could bring Russia along as well.
Originally posted by ludaChrisAnd as far as no NATO aircraft being able to get within 100 kilometers withough getting 10 missiles shot at it. There is more to an airstrike than just sending in your planes, first you take out those radars with strike aircraft with radar homing missiles and jaming pods. After that way is clear then send in your attack aircraft to take out the targets you so desire. What I'm saying if NATO wanted it destroyed it would be.
Originally posted by ludaChrisAnd Russia wont go to war with the US or any other country for that matter over this, granted they have money involved but if they were to attack a NATO country, they would be commiting political and military suicide, I mean, a declaration of war on NATO was scary during the cold war, and they are nowhere near the power they used to be.
Originally posted by ludaChrisAnd which allies does Iran have between them? Why try and go through Syria when I'm sure that the U.S. would gladly grant them an nice air lane to fly right through in Iraq? And I dont think the Jordanian Airforce would try to stop it at all. But then agian I will doubt an Israeli airstike just because of the political ramifications and besides that the US has much better access, but the Syrian of Jordanian airforce could not stop the Israeli airforce if they wanted to, Israel has proven that before.
Originally posted by Rickey Gerard Perez
If the issue is sent to the UN Security Council Iran should comply with everything demanded of them.
Originally posted by Rickey Gerard Perez
If Iran kicks out inspectors, they can almost certainly expect airstrikes against their strategic military buildings and nuclear plants.
So either Iran complies, or they get a number of airstrikes. Iran won't be invaded by troops, but they will be bombed.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
B-2's could invade their airspace at will. Beyond that, AIRCRAFT ARE NOT NEEDED.
Cruise missles have both the range and the accuracy to take out a nuclear powerplant.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Yeah, thats just what Russia wants to do - start WWIII over Irans nuclear reactors.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Yeah, cause the US with troops and aircraft nearly completely surrounding Iran with the greatest military technology in the world can do nothing to Iran, but Isreal - a US military leach which shares no boarder with Iran - can.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
First of all, just because you say an airstrike wouldn't work doesn't make it true. Both the US and Isreal could invade Iranian airspace at will and complete such a mission.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Secondly, Irans allies?
Last I checked, Jordan and Saudi Arabia were allies of the US, not Iran. Not that Isreal would automatically be allowed to enter their airspace, but they are in no way shape or form Irans Allies.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
I believe Bush has proven that he is anything but just a talker.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Please tell me exactly what detection systems Iran has that could detect and track a US B-2 Spirit strategic bomber. Please tell me how Iran would stop a Tomahawk missle attack.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
They will only get it if it is under supervision the US deems adequate, otherwise every power plant will be destroyed. Bank on it.
Originally posted by Manincloak
Originally posted by ludaChris
The thing with China is we have trade talks coming up at the end of the month. And if enough countries in the UN are concerned with it the US could(and I do mean hypothetically) use these trade talks to convince China to change their position. And that well could bring Russia along as well.
News Flash: Niether China nor Russia want to trade with US.
Not as extensively as you make them out to anyway.
Infact it's the US which are trying to get China to trade with them, not the other way around
Originally posted by ludaChris
China needs the US for its dollars to purchase things on the international market. The oil market uses dollars if I am not mistaken. So why would they not want to trade with the US. Why would any country not want the financial benefits of trading with the US.
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by ludaChrisIf NATO decided to strike at the Reactor sites. They would have to first defeat the air defenses which can be done with conventional aircraft. If you noticed I said in my previous statement with jamming support, meaning those search radars wont be able to see through the jamming until the aircraft ar close enough to have already launched ALARM missiles. If you dont know what they are, then go here:
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by ludaChris
As for the comment about Russian going to war with NATO, I was merely responding to this statement:
You were the one pointing that Russia would come to war over a strike on the reactor, not me.
Originally posted by ludaChrisDid you pay attention when Syria and Egypt declared war on Israel. Time and Time again the Israeli airforce prooved superior to both. I'm not saying that Syria could not shoot them down with a SAM, that is entirely possible, but to think that if they do not invade Syrian Airspace that they would send fighters up to shoot them down, there is an outside chance they would succeed against Israel in air-to-air combat.
Originally posted by ludaChris
I dont know why everyone thinks that because an air defense system is labeled as 'sophisticated', that NATO could not break through and destroy what needs to be destroyed, weve done it twice in the past 15 years, not counting the second Iraq war, simply because its air defenses werent what they used to be.
Originally posted by ludaChrisAnd with all due respect, you obviously have no knowledge of the capabilities of NATO's airforces.
Originally posted by crisko
No.
The U.S. wants China to free it's currency from it's artificical rate. China can't just up an do this; it's a slow process.
Believe me, many business here in the U.S.A would be happy if we didn't trade with China. We can provide for ourselfs.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Originally posted by NR
Seems like people on my ignore list can't seem to be getting enough, you can post whatever you want but i won't even be seeing a dam thing. Goes for others on the list...
redmage
skippytjc
American Mad Man
Murcielago
I guess thats why you know we are posting... Because you can't see our posts.
Lighten up buddy. Ignoring people that present contrary views to your own will only keep you close minded and uneducated.
Originally posted by ludaChris
Ok, to start, yes it is a two way street, but China needs our money more than we need to give it. We do export grain to China that I know for sure, but do you know what else we send to China, I'm not aware of anything we trade with them other than grain and our currency of course. Maybe someone can help me out there.
Originally posted by ludaChrisThey can turn the radars off but to what purpose does it serve them if there is no guidance for their missiles. The typical reaction to anti-radar missiles is flipping the radar on and off to confuse the missiles, but this action is a coin toss, may work, may not. Which can work for or against either side.
Originally posted by ludaChris
And what makes you so sure their airforce would acheive something, in the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Syria, who joined the conflict lost 80 planes, and Isreal lost none. Israel has the best airforce in the middle east, not because they want to, but because they have to. And once again it was the same story in 85.
www.globalsecurity.org...
Originally posted by ludaChris Most likely routing this defense will call for stealth aircraft, which is something that the US does have.
Originally posted by ludaChrisAnd the thing about if US companies stop trading with China is not necessarily true. Countries like Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, or Taiwan would gladly pick up that slack at comparable rates. But it would be much easier to stick with China seing as it is working perfectly fine as it is. But politics are politics, what can you do?
Originally posted by ludaChrisBut lets hope this gets solved diplomatically.