posted on Nov, 27 2005 @ 06:40 PM
If they had waited six months, they would have been available. THAT is what I said.
It was in testing and would have within the six months needed for 'High Summer in the South Atlantic'. You also would have had another carrier and a
fully vetted (and onboard, the ascenscion flyout being another marvel of risked asset insanity) Harrier force ready for deck ops and quite possibly
possesed of LGB and working MULE or similar ground designators.
It was not, at all. When the Gannet was retired the ministry took the view (or rather tried to justify its lack of spending on a replacement for the
Gannet) that the RN would never have to operate out of the reach of RAF or 'friendly' AEW aircraft and so did not need its own platform.
The Falkland showed the fallacy of this but by this stage UK forces were committed. It was AS A RESULT of this that the Sea Kings were quickly
modified by having the redundant Gannet radars lashed to them.
That is basic factual error number one.
I agree. Thinking you could speak definitively about the AEW Mk.2A Sea King while including the words 'Gannet Radar' (APS-20F) automatically
disqualifies you as an 'expert' on the topic.
On 4 May, 1982, a crash programme was instituted to provide the fleet with its own AEW platform.
...known as Project LAST, (Low Altitude Surveillance Task), which resulted in flying hardware within only 11 weeks. At the heart of the programme lay
the Thorn EMI ARI 5980/3 Searchwater radar, a pulse-compression, frequency agile search radar.
In fact, the first of the AEW Mk.2As made its maiden flight on 23 July 1982. The two prototypes undertook flying trials aboard HMS Illustrious as
part of No. 824 Squadron and from 27 August provided AEW cover for ships operating within the Falklands 200-mile (320km) radius total exclusion
WAPJ #25 'Westland Sea King Variants', Jon Lake
Given that I _told you_ that the way you win wars is to make sure you have more of the right toys. And that the Argies were not wolves among the
shepherders threatening the Brits on the island. And that the need for these aircraft SHOULD have been foreseen as soon as the word 'Exocet' was
IF you had waited, for the six months it took for the AEW.2a to get to the COEA and the weather to clear up sufficiently to run effectively day
interceptors, IOW, -if- you had prosecuted the air war as it needed to be. You would have won, cleanly, avoiding such idiocies as the butchery of the
1st Welsh Guards.
But no. The Brits always /insist/ on 'winning by dependency'. Upon their enemies to make mistakes that no one with an ounce of wisdom would
predict as likely. And upon their friends to provide lashup solutions to tactical problems that should never have been at issue. Because they were
predictable needs too.
Black Buck was a joke. SAS/SBS hard kill would not have been. But /they/ were 'too busy' blowing up G2 and Pebbles. Both of which were virtually
undefended. Both of which had been decisively serviced by airpower days earlier.
And to operate within a land based IADS with a second axis ASUW threat and NOT reduce one of those to principle dangers to your _fleet_ to zero.
To not put the Argies on-island within a plummeting morale situation whereby euphoric belief in having triumphed over the Big Bad Brits was replaced
by the awareness that there would be no more C-130s. That ghosts in the darkness had taken their leadership, their heavy weapons and their limited,
_open air_, stockpiles of equipment.
Was to put at risk the entire operation by giving the FAA and CANA a 'reason for fighting on' in threatening a conventional amphibious landing
effort which even the /Real Marines/ have _never_ been able to successfully prosecute in under 24hrs. You took over 40. And suffered accordingly.
You don't fight within your limits. You don't expand those limits. You don't obey the most basic of tactical rules: Death In Detail Means One At
And your men paid for it in blood.
I could go right through your post pointing out each and every assumption or error in in it but your mind set is clearly fixed and your manner is more
than a little insulting. This will be my final post on this subject.
I never invited you. You responded to me. Your own rosey eyed childish view of all things Brit oozes out around your pompous assumptions that I can
be bothered by your opinions of me personally.