Bob Lazar - What's everyone think?

I just got done watching the Bob Lazar section of the TLC alien show they had on tonight. While I'm sure there have been subjects on this before, I just decided to create my own. While no one has been able to find anything on his seemingly nonexistent educational background, he did have the telephone entry from Los Alamos, let's be honest, they don't just don't hire anyone. Heh, perhaps he was just a janitor. Comedy aside, it's still an interesting story.

By the way his website www.boblazar.com... is back up.

It seemed like so many people put so much effort into debunking what he said that there is maybe a chance he was being truthful about what he had seen and done.
I don't know what to think,but it was a cool story.

A lot of Bob Lazar's alien knowledge orginated from the Krill and Dulce papers. The Krill papers are proven completely bogus and its all but guaranteed that the Dulce papers are bunk too. And then there's his real life history which conflicts with any idea that he was an engineer. He's just an agent of disinformation and nothing more. He falls into the same category of guys like the late Phil Schneider and William Cooper who I also think were full of crap. Phil was the most believable, but the fact that his story coincides with what the Krill and Dulce papers say bring it too much into question for me to think he is anything other than a guy who wanted to die from his natural-made cancer in a blaze of glory.

Now that I'm off topic with other disinformation agents, again, Bob Lazar is a liar.

I used to think he was an incrediable guy, but the more i looked into him, the more my respect for him dropped.

I kind of find it hard to believe that he was able to figure out the technology so quickly...

Before I start, I believe Schneider, Cooper and Lazar are frauds as well, BUT...

Assuming Lazar is telling the truth, it would be no surprise that when he went public all knowledge of his past and present would be basically removed in order to him seen less credible (which is what has happened).

Even if Lazar was a fraud, alot of what he said can be correlated with other information sources, so at least he has helped spread something. I don't think he has spread misinformation, but perhaps wanted to gain popularity? Hell, the guy scratch-built his own rocket car in his garage, so give him some engineering credit.

Cooper and Schneider are definitely borderline cases.. bordering on pure fiction. They did present some awesome reading, but for most people it was obviously far-fetching. HOWEVER, they did claim to have first-hand knowledge of some ultra-black budget facilities, so who knows.

I really have no idea what to think of him. Part of me thinks he is a fraud, that other part thinks he his somewhat telling the truth. I KNOW the gov't has some sort of secret technology. I saw something in the sky I can't explain with current technology.

When you join a Top Secret Clearance job you sign away your constitutional rights, your identity, and your freedom. The moment he said he got arrested would be when they put him in solitary in Levinworth. Theres no trial or official documents, its the end. He also claimed that he had Majestic Clearance, which is impossible because in 1984ish MJ-12 was disbanded, taking Majestic Clearance with it.

is a mother#in liar. He has stories out the fuggin ying-yang. If He had any reason at all to go public, the gov't would have snuffed him out so fast he wouldn't have had time to piss his panties. Sorry for the rant, but Lazar is a discredit to the UFO community. Peace.

Bob Lazar is full of crap. I saw him on TLC, I looked at his website. The people pointing out his stories coincide with the Dulce papers are right. I can not disagree that the government doesn't have some sort of technology they're not telling us about, but I believe that Lazar doesn't know what it is. I agree with Loki and WolfofWar, if Lazar did have all this clearance, the moment he spoke he would have been vaporized.

Hate to interrup the downpour here but Lazar is what he says he is.

Furthermore he has made a fortune doing 'physics stuff' since he left the military. In most peoples mind that is a degree of credibility right there.

WolfofWar put it best by saying that the guy out of intellectual interest signed his offical life away. It's like the CIA, you are a lifer' or you lose your life.

Lazar is a guy that likes the camera on him so it appears he is susceptible to hamming it up. If I had a criticism of him it would be that. Therefore we have to wade through Lazar's past picking out the probable and casting aside the improbable.

maybe this will help. When you watch a liar...they tend to look down when an UHH moment comes. When someone telling the truth has an Uhh situation, they look up... it is an old cop secret. Bob lazar looked up whenever he talked about what he had knowledge of and would look down when the interviewer would ask for more detail. I think personally that he does know things, but perhaps found them in a supervisors office in las alamos instead of in nevada. It might explain why he has connections but didn't make the dough. (his check stub was for a measley 750 bucks) if i was a wanting a secret scientist for a job... i would have to pay him a little secrecy pay. Otherwise our scientists would be like Russias (for sale). He also seemed to talk about stuff he didn't or shouldn't have known personally. And looked down when he did. Much as if he had done some internet research to help enrich an otherwise very short interview. He does need media attention if he doesn't want to die... doesn't he? I guess i give him some credit for the chance he did sneak a peek at something...sometime. And yes...you do have to give him credit for being a talented engineer. Nothing is absolutley true or absolutley false, but some things are absolute. (great vodka)

just to remove the double post from when the server ent down

[Edited on 18-9-2003 by LazarusTheLong]

I know this thread might be at least 2 years old, but i decided to resurrect it because I have a theory about Bob Lazar. I have deduced that Bob Lazar might not be who he says he is. He may be someone who is the cover for a man or woman who actually did work in Area 51 on reverse technology. Tp protect his/her identity they've sent Bob Lazar out with a few grains of knowledge of projects they've worked on. Obviously since Bob Lazar may have been just an employee of the base on a lower level, the military isn't too worried by his stories being featured in all types of media because people will eventually debunk him and call him a fraud. Therefore the scientist that fed him the info would be safe. Of course this could be another ploy by the military to spread misinformation by leaking the truth through an unsuspecting pawn who makes it sound extremely non-credible to throw people off. Have you ever noticed that the truth can be right in front of you but you just shirk it off because it's just too obvious?

Interesting, your theory actually makes a lot of sense. It's certainly a choice I would consider if I was working in a top secret black project and I had a desire to disclose information. May be we should be looking more at the authenticity of the information given as opposed to the authenticity of the individual?

I wholeheartedly agree. But the main issue is getting to the bottom of the Bob Lazar mystery. I wouldn't exactly want to send him email directly for fear of exposing the truth of his tue involvement or perhaps his contact to government officials.

[edit on 28-2-2005 by Reptilian_Queen]

I'm going to go with Simon on this one...on all counts...

Even if Lazar was a fraud, alot of what he said can be correlated with other information sources, so at least he has helped spread something. I don't think he has spread misinformation, but perhaps wanted to gain popularity? Hell, the guy scratch-built his own rocket car in his garage, so give him some engineering credit.

There's evidence corraborating his story, and evidence pointing to fraud. Still, from my own personal experiences, the claim of knowledge of S-4 is indeed compelling, likewise so is knowledge of base details and when and where test flights would be done. I'm more of the opinion that he was an unwitting patsy for partial disclosure, and an experiment by the powers that be to see what they could get away with releasing. If this scenario is correct, then the information he was given regarding the EBEs was likely largely falsified, mixed with tidbits of truth.

I'm in full agreement with some of the above members, regarding Cooper, Schneider, Krill papers (a proven and admitted hoax), etc.

Quite the comments and some good ones too. Suppose some have heard of Dan Buricsh (spelling STC), if he's in positive favour with being real along with J-Rod (EarthFiles (LM Howe)), then it should be known that Burisch identifies Lazar as being at Site-4 and was known as the 'Bottle Washer' in his description meaning Bottom Level Engineer.

Buricsh also claims Lazar worked on '4-1' meaning the hanger level at Site-4, A51 and was a common name there after Lazar did the non-covered interview with Knapp in /91.

Anyway, I really don't know what to think of Lazar but when you look at his tax form, at the end of the reference sec number is 'MAJ'. It was a proven real tax form. I'm still open minded.

As for Cooper and the others I suppose that will come up on another thread sooner or later.

Dallas

Well your theory certianly seems possible at the very least.
Or he is just a fraud.

I remember he talked about an element 115 that didn´t exists at the time.
It exists now and it´s called Ununpentium:

www.webelements.com...

www.webelements.com...

The existence of this element now proves nothing but it would be interesting if someone could check if the alleged properties of Lazar´s element 115 are the same of Ununpentium...