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Topic started on 8-10-2005 @ 09:47 PM by sharkman
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I was able to attend a short talk this week and some interesting things were brought to my attention concerning the symbols we use and see in Masonry.
These were things I had not yet figured out for myself or read about yet, being new to Masonry, I'm learning tons of things I had not even begun to
get a glimmer of.
The speaker I heard pointed out that the compass and square had significant meanings, in that the square represented the material world and
experience and that the compass was representative of the spiritual side of mans experience. The compass, with its ability to create a circle was
representative of the all encompassing sphere. He also pointed to other meanings and interpretations of many of our symbols.
I'm interested in what others may have to share about the legitimate symbology that is present in Masonic symbols. I know that several of the Masons
on this site could guide me in the right direction for good reading materials. I have read the Craft and Its Symbols, which a good, short primer, but
I'm looking for some substantial information. if you have suggestions I'm willing to hear them.
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reply posted on 9-10-2005 @ 01:33 AM by Khonsu
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My advice to you is simply to continue studying, attend lodge regularly and just keep your eyes and mind open. You are already on the path, what you
seek will find you in time.
The deepest things are often the simplest. Look to the east.
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reply posted on 9-10-2005 @ 02:13 AM by The Axeman
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I've sent you a u2u regarding this, and what I have read about it. I would advise as Khonsu... keep studying. As a non-Mason (today), I can't
presume to tell you anything about the ritual, but I can share what I have found, and from what I hear, I'm pretty well versed in this kind of
thing... considering, of course, my current status.
Look around on that site; there is lots of good information there.
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reply posted on 23-10-2005 @ 07:24 AM by Atomix
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Hey doesn't the Stargate Command logo look like the Masonic logo?
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That is soo cool....
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reply posted on 24-10-2005 @ 10:28 AM by Atomix
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Im a threadkiller aren't I?
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reply posted on 24-10-2005 @ 08:39 PM by homeboiabe
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reply posted on 25-10-2005 @ 04:15 PM by Becon of Light
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They are reasonably similar, but that is due in part to the fact that masonic symbology relies heavily on eygptian symbology and myth, which is
exactly what stargate is based on, that having been stated, the creators of the show, as show creators often do, may have borrowed from the masonic
compass in creating the SGC logo
truthflly it isnt that uncommon to see masonic symbolism borrowed for, if not outright taken for commecial use, an early linkoln park video acually
has a scene with the lead singer standing infront of a doorway and on the walls surrounding the door was several lines of text written in the royal
arch cipher, the artist that worked on the video fully admits it's use
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reply posted on 27-10-2005 @ 01:03 PM by mik0001000
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ive also heard that the mason try to have their symbols in plain view eg on the dollar bill so could it just be another way of iding in plain sight
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reply posted on 27-10-2005 @ 02:23 PM by saint4God
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The most informative thread I've found so far on the topic is this one: My Masonic
Journey Begins...
As far as Christians go though, there's only one "symbol" that they need.
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reply posted on 29-10-2005 @ 12:30 PM by Masonic Light
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Originally posted by saint4God
As far as Christians go though, there's only one "symbol" that they need. 
Sigh....
Saint, my man, I wonder if you really believe that. We've discussed this before when talking about the symbol of "light".
I would strongly argue, and would expect you'd agree, that if a Christian were driving an auto in a foreign country and didn't know how to spell
"yield" in that country's native tongue, he'd better be acquainted with what the symbol of a yield sign looks like. Obviously, the doctrine that
there is only one branch of knowledge that a Christian needs is not correct.
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reply posted on 29-10-2005 @ 12:51 PM by magnito_student
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Would you believe me if I told ya Jesus was a freemason and had a temple building company with Hiram Abiff?
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reply posted on 29-10-2005 @ 04:25 PM by TgSoe
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Originally posted by Atomix
Hey doesn't the Stargate Command logo look like the Masonic logo?
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That is soo cool.... 
Is that a face I see at the bottom of the square in the top symbol? It looks like it has serpents coming out of its eyes.
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 09:03 AM by saint4God
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
Obviously, the doctrine that there is only one branch of knowledge that a Christian needs is not correct. 
Could you please explain specifically what you mean?
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 09:06 AM by Masonic Light
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Originally posted by saint4God
Could you please explain specifically what you mean? 
You said that there's only one symbol a Christian needs, presumably the Cross, although you didn't elaborate. This may be true in spiritual
discipline, but obviously, Christians need to know more symbols than that, for example, yield signs.
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 10:47 AM by saint4God
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
You said that there's only one symbol a Christian needs, presumably the Cross, although you didn't elaborate. 
That's an excellent presumption. Your conclusion validates a personal experience for me and cannot relay how much I appreciate that. I was not told
the symbol either, but was led to that conclusion. At the time I'd hoped I drew the right conclusion. It seems I have. It's a long story, one
that no-one will believe I'm sure, but am really grateful for your answer.
Originally posted by kedfr
This may be true in spiritual discipline, but obviously, Christians need to know more symbols than that, for example, yield signs. 
After the guarentee of eternal life in heaven and a personal connection/relationship with God, what more does a person need? Again, specifics would
be a great help.
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 11:10 AM by Trinityman
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I fear that anyone who doesn't recognise a Stop Sign may be enjoying eternal life a little sooner than expected
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 11:44 AM by saint4God
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Meh, so I get shorted a couple of decades on this rock. Much to my benefit to be enjoying everlasting happiness sooner
It's also interesting to note when asking for specifics, I get more colourful allegories.
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 11:46 AM by Masonic Light
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Originally posted by saint4God
After the guarentee of eternal life in heaven and a personal connection/relationship with God, what more does a person need? Again, specifics would
be a great help.

I thought the yield sign was pretty specific. If you're driving along the countryside in Germany, and can't speak German, and come to a yield sign,
what you need is not theology but the knowledge of traffic sign symbols.
Of course, as Trintyman pointed out, if you don't know the meaning of traffic sign symbols in this situation, you may need a whole heap of
theology indeed.
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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 11:48 AM by saint4God
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What's "symbolic" of a yield sign? And how does that relate to masonry? Is there a Conspiracies in Traffic section I'm not aware of? Are Masons
responsible for all traffic signals? Looks to me like someone is dangling an imaginary carrot, or at least one they're unwilling to share. That
doesn't seem Christ-like to me.
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reply posted on 1-11-2005 @ 07:09 AM by Leveller
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Originally posted by saint4God
After the guarentee of eternal life in heaven and a personal connection/relationship with God, what more does a person need? 
What about a compassion for your fellow man?
It's all "me me me me" isn't it? It's " my salvation", " my relationship with God". It's an arrogant smugness that really goes
against the grain.
I don't believe that being a Christian "guarantees" you anything. In fact, Biblical text doesn't guarantee a thing. Jesus states by way of parable
that you have to earn Salvation. It was the Church which taught you that it comes for free.
So what more does a person need? I'd say something other than blinkers.
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