posted on Oct, 5 2005 @ 07:33 AM
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Despite Turley being clearly 'European' (check any history going back 2000yrs+ to early Roman times) it would appear that some are just desperate to
establish 'a border' with the Muslim world and resurrect the old nonsense of a 'fortress Europe'.
Just because Turkey straddles both Europe and Asia (once here clear blessing).
Well for one its a valid viewpoint to say that Turkey is not really part of the european continent. Needless to say that the vast majority of Turkey
is beyond the undisputable historic continent border of the Bosporus. Personally I feel that Europe needs a strong influence in the Middle eastern
region for the security and prosperity of both regions, but I have to admit that I am afraid to have a direct border to this melting pot. And it would
lead to that the EU would be forced to provide a final stance on the Israel question (given the recent threats against Iran thats another political
I´d welcome Turkey into EU any day, but the geographical realities cant be changed. Id rather keep Turkey as puffer zone against this, but since
there most probably wont be a public vote on this in my country, my most sincere hopes would be that the Middle Eastern region will stabilize in the
course of the next decade. If so, welcome Turkey, but if not I say it is too dangerous.
No-one complained about their NATO membership during the cold war, eh?
Or their help for the allies (staying neutral and refusing Hitler rare and vital raw materials) during WW2.
I dont think that NATO membership and past allying should be a part of the consideration for an EU joining process. The interests and aims of NATO
and EU are quite different. And lets not forget that Turkey would finally have to negotiate a Cyprus solution, respectively recognize its status as a
country and withdraw its troops.
Mind you, IMO, if Turkey had been a completely 'white' and so-called 'Christian' country and positioned just a tiny little bit further west
she'd have been in (comparitively speaking) within mere months (as the last intake and Croatia show).
AFAIK the main reason for the possible joining date is that the current EU budget that is under negotiations will go from 2007-2014. Once fully
accepted, this budget will be rigidly set and is not flexible to integrate more countries than there are now. I have confidence that most EU
representatives are aware of the fact that Turkey has had a long and successful secular development, and lets not forget Mrs. Ciller who was head of
state long before a woman in that position was thought of in many "traditional" european nations.
So my guess is that the Islam only plays a very minor role in the decision process. More urgent would be the aforementioned budget problem and the
doubtful political situation in many of the to-be bordering countries.
[edit on 5/10/2005 by Lonestar24]