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True reason of iraq war?

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posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 07:54 AM
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First off, nation-building is unconstitutional. Secondly, a DEMOCRACY is NOT a good form of government--it's mob rule. America, btw, is supposed to be a constitutional REPUBLIC.


If we're to go along with your thinking then we must also say that it was wrong of us to rebuild Europe and Japan after WWII, and South Korea after the Korean War (to a much lesser extent.) I think we can all agree that our "nation-building" efforts in the mid to late 20th century to this day remains largely a huge success. This can be seen when comparing western European nations that were largely under US control to eastern European nations that fell behind the Iron Curtain and control of the Soviet Union. Also look at the difference between North and South Korea.

I don't think that our Constitution should ever set in stone foreign policy matters, especially ones like "nation-building." It has become clear that those nations which are free and prosperous tend not to be a haven for, or an exporter of, terrorism. By rebuilding countries such as Iraq we are giving the Iraqi people more reason to resist Islamic extremism.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 08:09 AM
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Rasputin13, all those examples are from wars where the US was not the initial aggressor...apples to oranges.

A more comparitive example is how the US won the West by way of genocide.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 11:53 PM
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POWER, CONTROL, "MONEY", and maybe a hint of safety for the people is all the war is about. Bush is a product of the last fifty years; simply the next available face for the same old clique. The Elite have been corrupt since Hoover, most likely even before, and we the People have yet to stand up and refuse to support them. Saying and speculating is one thing, but action is what is needed now. If everyone that had any inclination towards the possibility of a corrupt government would stop going about their daily lives, take a real risk, and demand an end to this horse#$*& we might get somewhere. They can make a few bold people dissappear but not millions. But the fact is, we love our little boxes, cars, processed foods, tv, false sense of security, family, dog, Jesus, Buddha, academic pursuits, intellectual blah blah, and that warm fuzzy feeling in the genitals. Everything is a distraction and a means of justifying this perpetual human deficiency. It's bigger than the government, bigger than people, bigger than the earth. Until we as HUMANS go all out and demand change, first from ourselves, then from the ''elected"(yeah right) officials, nothing will change and history will continue to repeat itself. Maybe new names, changing scenery, different time period, but the same old HUMAN flaw. "To err is human" is the numbing mantra of mankind. A crutch for all us who refuse to stop sucking on the nipple of human development and rise up to the level we as a race need to be at. You can blame this party for that, that country for this, on and on and on and on, but the fact remains, it means nothing. DISTRACTIONS and PREOCCUPATIONS. There is no sense to be made of the current state of things. All is whack and no one wants to tackle the real issues. Complicate and pervert the simplest and purest solution; that is man's quest. Just like any unhealthy relationship this one will come to a disastrous end and everyone will be left crying with balls in hand.



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