It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

NEWS: Lynndie England Abuse Trial

page: 1
7

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 20 2005 @ 05:48 PM
link   
Lynndie England's Iraqi Prisoner Abuse Trial will begin tomorrow under a cloud of controversary with the Judge in her trial speaking out strongly and questioning her defence tactics. Judge Pohl has questioned how England was able to finish high school with the picture that her defence team has painted of her. England's defence revolves around diminished mental capacity and obeyance of orders by superior officers. England originally pleaded guilty on a deal situation to the charges of Abuse on prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq after photographs circulated the world in which England was one of the participants in the abuse. Judge Pohl negated her plea when evidence was heard that England thought she was following orders from superior officers in regards to the abuse.
 



www.news.com.au


THE US military judge in the trial of Lynndie England , who gained notoriety in the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, expressed scepticism today about the defence argument that she was too compliant toward authority.

"You are painting a picture of a woman who cannot think for herself in almost all circumstances," Judge Colonel James Pohl told lead defence lawyer Captain Jonathan Crisp.

"She does have to look to the authority figures around her and glean what to do," Captain Crisp said.

Captain Crisp cited as evidence of her docility the fact that England had waived her right to an attorney during middle-of-the-night questioning by military investigators.

Captain Crisp said that legally, she could have refused to say anything but instead she answered questions for hours.

Judge Pohl asked how England was able to finish high school and function in society if she could not understand that she could decline to talk to investigators.



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This trial is by far the most controversial of all the low scale soldiers that have been charged over the Abuse claims. Was she acting and obeying orders from higher ups? Did she really know right from wrong? Those questions will be asked and revealed during the trial and hopefully the whole abuse scandal will be exposed and stripped to grass roots for the world to see what really went on within the confines of the prison.

Updates to Be Posted.

[edit on 20-9-2005 by Mayet]




posted on Sep, 21 2005 @ 06:42 PM
link   
The trial has started with Lynndie England's defence team stating...Love Made Me Do it....


www.news.com.au...

ISOLATED amid the chaos and often bizarre life inside Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, US soldier Lynndie England posed in now notorious abuse photographs because she loved and trusted the scandal ringleader, her lawyer said at the start of her court-martial today.
England, 22, who was pictured holding a leash to a naked Iraqi prisoner, was lured into posing for the photographs that caused worldwide outrage by Charles Graner, the father of her baby, said military lawyer Captain Jonathan Crisp.

"What mattered to her was her relationship to Corporal Graner," said Captain Crisp, who added that Graner her superior, was 14 years older than England and had worked as a prison guard.

"She thinks: 'I love him, he loves me, he's not going to do something to hurt me'," Captain Crisp said in opening arguments.

The US Army Reserve Private First Class faces a maximum penalty of 11 years in jail if convicted on all seven counts on charges of conspiracy, maltreatment of subordinates and indecent acts. A military jury sentenced Graner to 10 years in prison earlier this year, and since his incarceration he has married another woman who pleaded guilty in the scandal.



posted on Sep, 22 2005 @ 07:29 PM
link   

www.news.com.au...
US soldier Lynndie England seemed to enjoy the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib and once noted that a prisoner was sexually aroused, members of her unit testified at a court martial today.
"She was laughing, she seemed to be having a good time with all that was going on," said Private Jeremy Sivits, who has served a one-year sentence for his role in the abuse scandal.

England, 22, appears in some of the most infamous pictures of US abuse at Abu Ghraib, including an image in which she holds a leash to a naked Iraqi prisoner.

Sivits described the November 2003 night when England posed in front of prisoners who were forced into a naked human pyramid and later were lined up along a wall and forced to masturbate.

"She walked over on her own," Sivits said, describing an image in which England points at a prisoner's genitalia.

She "still seemed to be joking around, having a good time".

That soldier, Robert Jones, now a Baltimore policeman, said he did not act to end what has become one of the most notorious episodes of the US war in Iraq.

"I figured because of his experience he may have misinterpreted what he saw," Mr Jones testified about his initial inaction.

Wisdom returned a second time after seeing the forced masturbation to complain again. Mr Jones said he went to his superior, Ivan Frederick, who had forced the prisoners to masturbate. Mr Jones said he did not receive a response when he asked about the incident and he did not report the abuses to anyone else.


as the trial begins it is becoming increasingly obvious that higher ranked officials were aware of the abuse. Whether they condoned it or turned a blind eye is irrelevant but more higher ranked officials should be put on trial for their part in the abuse instead of leaving it to the lowly soldiers to foot all of the blame.

England is guilty, whether she should be locked up in a psych ward or a prison remains to be seen but she is guilty of the abuses and nothing, not even diminished capabilities lessens her guilt.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 11:24 PM
link   

www.news.com.au...

US soldier Lynndie England was so blindly obedient to her boyfriend she gave no thought to posing in the notorious photos of abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, a defence psychologist testified today.
"Her compliant personality in the context of her relationship with Charles Graner explains those pictures," said Xavier Amador, a New York clinical psychologist.

Graner, 37, the abuse ringleader with whom she has a child, had asked her to pose in at least some of the Abu Ghraib images that incited worldwide condemnation when they were made public in April 2004.

Members of the five-man jury of officers sought to get to the heart of the matter and in written questions asked if England, 22, could tell right from wrong.

Judge Colonel James Pohl later told the jury the issue is legally irrelevant because the defence is not arguing that England was criminally insane and thus could not tell right from wrong.


I have one problem since the beginning of the trial if not before. If she was so dumb, so socially inept, so backwards in learning as she is being made out to be, how the heck could she pass the psych test to get into the armed services anyhows. If she had such learning difficulties she wouldn't have passed the stringent testing standards.

Surely if all that was true she would not have been accepted into the forces. Or is it that the US is lowering it's standards on entry and letting anyone and everyone in?



new topics

top topics
 
7

log in

join