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Originally posted by Flinx
... I must say that I think praying might actually work sometimes. Not because a god is heeding your request, but because of the innate psychic abilities of humans...It doesn't have to be praying, it could be anything...meditation, concentrating on something, etc.
"when the stars were created, all my angels were glorifying me and praising me" (Job 38:7). It is the Logos of God, Who created them because, "for by Him were all things created, that are in heavens, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities or powers, all things were created by Him and for Him" (Colossians 1:16).
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Hiya Marge, thanks. Didn't quite understand your last line.
Originally posted by helen670
...As God hears your prayers, so does Satan......Be careful what you wish for!
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
One thing I never quite understood about prayer, is that if God controls everything, why on earth would someone look up to the sky and ask God to do this or that? I mean, He's going to take care of it anyway, right? And if you believe that God doesn't control everything, or anything, for that matter, then maybe you can share your views from the other perspective.
I've wondered this for a very long time, and never really gotten any great answers to the question, other than "Pray because it says to do so in the Bible." The thought strikes my mind again as we collectively morn for the victims of Katrina. Many people are praying for the dead and for those who lost everything. I am just wondering if it really does any good to ask God to "Have mercy upon their souls, or help them rebuild their lives" when God did it in the first place, and knows exactly what will happen to each and every one of them, as well as you and me, IMO.
Originally posted by anxietydisorder
...As for myself, I think Man created God in our image.
I do want to say though, if I had to have an operation. I would want as many people as possible saying a prayer for me.
I feel that if many people pray for a certain outcome, that energy must have an effect. There may even be studies that could comfirm this.
Originally posted by anxietydisorder
I find it very difficult to expess my religious feelings without them being trashed by people that post after me. I'm not saying that TrueAmerican did that by quoting me, but I just find that religion is a very hot topic on these boards.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Friend, I only quoted you because I wanted to address those specific points, and in no way did I mean any of my responses to your quotes as derogatory or insulting. On the contrary, at the end of that post I asked you two questions, which I honestly want you to answer. I am trying to engage you in a meaningful conversation, so why skip over my questions, not answer them, and then redirect this thread? I feel they were vaild questions, given your response to my original post.
[edit on 8-9-2005 by TrueAmerican]
k so if you don't believe there is a God, yet you believe that the "prayer energy" would help you, then what do you believe that energy is directed at, and moreso, can you explain then how it is possible for that energy to work if there is not a God or some kind of Higher Power?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
purelogik, I appreciate your questions, and they are good ones, unfortunately, you didn't even attempt to answer mine. :shk: Think you could take a stab at an answer? And how bout starting your own thread, lol.
Originally posted by xpert11
Is praying useless?
Of course it is given that all logic would suggest that god dosnt exist I would say praying is pretty much a waste of time. If possible you would be better off to take measures in your life to gain the desired outcome.