Originally posted by namehere
in noones "eyes" in the real world, economically and legally its unfeasable unless you want mass layoffs, government dictating what you drive, how
much you can drive, how much power you can use, what you can buy, AND every country has failed in staying within the treaties limits thus far, dont
get mad at me for seeing the economic disaster in this threaty.
*Ah and now we get to what we buy, what we use, what we drive, how much we use. That same government produces money
which makes us buy things.
We get dished out this money
as a reward for being good little minions and have this money
taken away when we are deemed to be bad
minions. We are controlled totally by this money
*I am not mad at you. I am discussing your words. I do not know you personally to get 'mad' at you.
so we should accept massive job losses, homelessness and become a 3rd world country just so youre happy.
*No it takes a total rethink. A total look at the whole issue start to finish. Our society and how it is built. What is important and what is not.
What is our future and how can we learn from the past.
youre not arguing on what is realistic, only some paradise pipe dream of pollution just magically vanishing suddenly all while noone suffers by
sudden destruction of our country, without our economy any effort in regards to alternative energy or any such thing will be destroyed because with
30% of the world economy gone, that would bring a great depression, twice before when our economy crashed it did exactly that, thinking by logic our
action is protecting everyone, your idea would cause disaster.
where do I say that pollution will magically vanish? Once again regarding the economy the first statement need not be repeated here. Economy is built
on money. Meanwhile Billy gates has tens of billions of dollars to his name and luxuries and riches and then there is Africa.......and Asia.......and
every other third world country. A depression? Well its about time one was manufactured. I am sure it's on the Government's to do list somewhere.
Nothing better than a downturn in economy to sort the minions. Depresions are built on money.
funny, YOU WERE ASSUMING then asserting you know this and that, and try researching, you might find we are doing quite alot with our own
programs WITHOUT destroying our economy.
I was asserting just what? I remember I was asking a lot of questions, which have not been answered. I don't quite recall a page long post of the
solutions to global warming "by Mayet who knows nothing". I think maybe you had better reread what I HAVE written and not read to much into what's
right, stop throwing words around, i ask a reasonable question because you are asserting that we're arrogant for not sighning this treaty, and
I never throw words around. I speak from the heart.
Please reread what I wrote once again
Why are you being so arrogant and not fixing this problem?
I specifically said arrogant and not fixing the problem....I did not say arrogant for not siging treaty. I asked why the treaty wasn't signed. A
question.... a perfectly standard way of gaining knowledge and learning something.
AND if you dont have any facts or opinion or anything on this why did you even create this thread? are you THAT biased that you say things
without any reason except the fact its america so it must be a good thing we're being sued?
Did you happen to see which particular part of the forum you were on. Its ATSNN, the NEWS network where people report on NEWS. I do believe in all my
honesty that I was reporting a news article that had hit the news feeds. Nowhere in my article can I detect even the slightest flavour of bias on my
behalf. I have followed guidelines and even added a cutesy comment of my own at the bottom as required.
this is baseless conspiracy daitribe and personal bias, im not interested in your "opinion" and what the crap? 900 billion? NASA DOESNT EVEN
GET THAT MUCH IN 100 YEARS AT ITS CURRENT BUDGET..that figure cant be true, and no were too busy thinking within reason and about our people to risk
destroying our country.
I didn't ask you if you were interested in my opinion. I don't say what I feel to win friends. I have plenty thank you very much. Ok you win now its
because they do and not everything is boidegradable and they are wasteful(people), ask yourself, and plastics are very useful, i'd be dead
without them and many others.
Once again I and that is if you ever do read what I say, advocate balance. If you wish to be precise, Minimal wastage. We live in a very throw away
society. It is not necessary to have so much wastage.
yes they do but attitudes like this are the reason people think they have no choices, government isnt part of business unless suddenly we
became socialist, but whatever you wish to believe
excuse me while I choke over your comments there. Government is not a part of business *chortle
many exist, they exist but the people mostly dont care enough to drive investment in such fuels, unless it benefits their wallet, if enough
invested in these things they would have them.
No argument. As I have said this is all money.
me, you, its not about us, its about reason and fact, i swept nothing over, i didnt say its not happening, i said it wasnt proven, as its a
THEORY, its not fact, i was clear that it could be happening but that my reason and science has never undeniably PROVEN FOR A FACT that it is,
especially since we have only begun understanding our enviroment and as yet we cant say if this warming is naturally recurring in cycles, from
pollution or whatever.
I am afraid it is very much about us, you and I and everyone around us.
Once again if you read my very very first comment, way up in the news item I so lovingly provided for debate and knowledge, you would see that i did
put forward a strong belief that we do not possess all the facts, we do not know the truths, we need facts, we need figures. I did say that looky
or to pin blame on a scapegoat, and take it off the culprit, ie the people blaming government for what is the peoples fault, and thats nice but
not really the discussion, im not against you or "witches".
I am not a witch..though my children think I am when I know what they are up to..... People blaming government for whats the peoples thought?
*shakes head for fuzziness*. Hmm no............. the culprit could just ultimately the governemnts of this world who hold total power? or is it big
business *shakes fuzziness again.
right if you wish to take everything personal just u2u me, i didnt label you, i questioned your reason and pointed out your bias.
question away, no U2U'ing though my hubby might get jealous of all the attention.
Bias?............... sugarbritches.....everyones biased.....I
kept mine out of the article so thats a no pointer.
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