NO SMOKING / drinking / porn / anything else?

Well, I'm all for it... I've seen what second hand smoke can do...(my mother and brother both have asthma due to my dad's chronic smoking for years....) Personally though, I would like to see the opportunity for smoking restaraunts and bars, etc. A business should be able to decide which it will cater to...or, if they are willing to have a separate area (walled off, and independent ventillation) to cater to both.... Simply put, should be a choice more than a mandate to all be non-smoking. Personally, I can't stand looking at a cigarette-yellowed wall while eating, nor do I enjoy breathing it in, but still, there should be a choice factor involved...

Originally posted by dragonrider
I dont smoke, or do drugs. But if you are considering banning sex, music, and alcohol, Im quite ready to lead the rebellion!

one as intelligent as you should know enough that alcohol IS a drug, what with it's effecting your perception of reality, your mood, and other things not to mentions it's being addictive, in truth it's more harmful than a good percentage of other drugs


i don't think any sort of act should be banned, within certain limits, like i think smokers, or anything not just cigs, should have to do it outside, unless it's a place especially for smoking, because people are looking for clean air, and you should respect other peoploe, as i'm sure none of you would pour alcohol down the throats of random people now would you

Originally posted by haarp
Hi, all. I live in the UK and am an ex smoker. I certainly dont want to work in an office where I have to wear a gas mask just to breath. However, when it comes to nightclubs, pubs and bars then you may all be surprised to know that I fully support the RIGHT for smokers to smoke in such venues! After all, you go to a nightclub for fun and relaxation, right? The local club bouncer doesnt come up to you, put a gun into your face and force you into his club, does he? Course not. So why are smokers villified in such venues when everyone in there has a simple choice: if you find the smoky atmosphere really unacceptable then leave and dont go back. Simple, eh? And I have heard (hopefully someone will put me right if I've misheard this!) that California either has, or intends to, ban people from smoking when walking down the street! That is, an open road, not a mall or otherwise enclosed area, but on the street! Hmm, now if Hitler had won the war (and who was notoriously anti smoking) I bet even he wouldnt have dared suggest such a thing! Thoughts on this, anyone?

Hitler...

didn't smoke
Wore kakis
was a vegetarian
short hair
neatly trimmed facial hair
1 testicle.

Sounds like the makings of a modern day yuppie GAP commercial.

I'll pass.

Total transformation of the senses and all that resembles it.



[You are all absolutely free]

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
Yet porn and viollence is shown freely - thrown in the face of all - like it or not. Please....discriminate across the board or not at all.

the violence is part of the american desensitization to violence and such things so they could allow the slip of quality fo life without the knowledge of the people as they find it more regular for violence to occur as it is seen all the time
the same selective discrimintain happens in canada, you can grow most drug plants, pretty much everything except cannabis, but if u extract the drug from the plant it's illegal, so we can basiclly do any drug here that grows naturally, as long as u can ingest it in the vegetative form, yet having the same stuff in liquid is illegal for the reason tahts it's procesed for sale ?? wierd eh

Some places particularly government offices now ban use of perfume. Now if they could just expand the ban to include all public places we'll be heading in the right direction.

Originally posted by Questor
Some places particularly government offices now ban use of perfume. Now if they could just expand the ban to include all public places we'll be heading in the right direction.

what?
some perfume is good. like when a girl wears sunflowers, i'll damn near hump her leg.

then again. maybe it isn't good.

Whats really screwed up is the City Of Mission Kansas. They have a law in the works that will forbade smoking at all unless you are in your home or car. :

How can people be so prompt to totally ban 'drugs', while they smoke cigarette. Hello, nicotine is addictive, so it should be classified just as any other drugs.

It's BS.

# CIGARETTE!!!

(I'm cigarette-free since january 21 2003 :up

[Edited on 2-9-2003 by m0rbid]

I completely agree with the new laws there a good thing for people who dont want smoke blown in there faces and smokers are being rude lighting up in a public place it means people such as asthmatics cant go out or even pregant people if u want to light up do it in your own place where it doesentaffect anyone or if u have kids the only place u shud do it is the back garden and it is stupid that you even smoke in the first place.

Originally posted by Fitzpatrick
I completely agree with the new laws there a good thing for people who dont want smoke blown in there faces and smokers are being rude lighting up in a public place it means people such as asthmatics cant go out or even pregant people if u want to light up do it in your own place where it doesentaffect anyone or if u have kids the only place u shud do it is the back garden and it is stupid that you even smoke in the first place.

~If I were you, I wouldn't address everybody in this thread that DOES smoke stupid and I being one for em
And take a look at your avatar pic.

~Peace
Jeff

"Desensitization" - your right.
I'll try not to get started on this one. Grrr....You'd have to drag me to the debate forum. THis government is doing more than anyone would like to know and there is plenty of plans in the works.
(trying NOT to go there)

>the same selective discrimintain happens in canada, you can grow most drug plants, pretty much everything except cannabis, but if u extract the drug from the plant it's illegal, so we can basiclly do any drug here that grows naturally, as long as u can ingest it in the vegetative form, yet having the same stuff in liquid is illegal for the reason tahts it's procesed for sale ?? wierd eh

***So what Clinton should have said than was that he didn't do anything illegal. LMAO

Originally posted by astrocreep
Well, as an advocate of an America with as many freedoms as possible...and a parent of a child stricken by asthma, this topic has kept me torn for some time now. (end quote)

***Oh, I agree 100%. Non smokers should not HAVE to breath our smoke. But at the same time - I don't want to go outside and get phenomia in the dead of winter. But that all aside....that's why I mentioned the porn. Porn is one of those 'depends on who you ask' kinds of things.
Does it bother me? From which stand point? Do I want my kids to see it? NO. Does it ruin families and cause crime - YES. But do I want it to dissapear? No.
Keep the adult material - but make it so that only those who purposely go to get it or want accest to it are faced with it. Keep it out of the faces of the children and all those women who get freaked out on it.
Smoking is the same, as is the gay thing. It's a personal freedom (weather it's right or wrong), BUT - keep your freedoms to yourself.

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS

Originally posted by astrocreep
Well, as an advocate of an America with as many freedoms as possible...and a parent of a child stricken by asthma, this topic has kept me torn for some time now. (end quote)

***Oh, I agree 100%. Non smokers should not HAVE to breath our smoke. But at the same time - I don't want to go outside and get phenomia in the dead of winter. But that all aside....that's why I mentioned the porn. Porn is one of those 'depends on who you ask' kinds of things.
Does it bother me? From which stand point? Do I want my kids to see it? NO. Does it ruin families and cause crime - YES. But do I want it to dissapear? No.
Keep the adult material - but make it so that only those who purposely go to get it or want accest to it are faced with it. Keep it out of the faces of the children and all those women who get freaked out on it.
Smoking is the same, as is the gay thing. It's a personal freedom (weather it's right or wrong), BUT - keep your freedoms to yourself.

~Dreams basically.

Regards,
Jeff

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
>the same selective discrimintain happens in canada, you can grow most drug plants, pretty much everything except cannabis, but if u extract the drug from the plant it's illegal, so we can basiclly do any drug here that grows naturally, as long as u can ingest it in the vegetative form, yet having the same stuff in liquid is illegal for the reason tahts it's procesed for sale ?? wierd eh

Yeah, we have such stupid and senseless laws here...that's why I love Canada

Again, my opinion, is all those anti-tobacco laws ARE good, no mather what you think, I'll say it again, they ARE GOOD, because the people are weak, yes, WEAK, and we can't count just on their will-power to stop. Cuz if we do that, we'll die waiting. That's why I think those law should stick, and in some case, expand.