Let us not pussyfoot.
I agree that moderators are people too, the trick is to separate and or remove bias and a judgemental bent from the two roles; authority and
contributor in kind. The majority of the people partaking of this forum do not have the ability to: move; delete or censor a post; warn; deduct points
from or ban a moderator or other member for any reason much less one which is discretionary. The operative word here being discretionary. Moderators
wear two hats, that of the constabulary and as a contributing member, and while acting as the latter, should be afforded no more and no less any
privilege than the other “people,” which is highly unlikely given a propensity of bias toward status.
When one is elevated to a position of authority over others, one is expected to assume that of a role model, to exemplify and promote respect working
in tandem to this end with all others within administration. When a few authoritarians work against this collective construct, and where no evidence
of policing these malefactors is evident, the issue of respect in setting example is itself tainted, bias rears its ugly head, and authority cannot
then expect to be exalted and granted exclusivity to that which it is not committed to trade.
Moderator- "Modding is a complex task with many people trying to care for many forums. Decisons are often qualitative and many calls are
There are several moderators here who are role models, not only in their authoritative positions but as well as in their member participation. I
appreciate the thread starter's lament (notice I did not use the generic and most oft recited authoritarian term; "whine,") via posting rather than
complaint or U2U because I too chose the same route in an effort to reach those who needed to be reached and who were either unresponsive or
interested only in being defensive. However, I reprise a few questions from as far back as April only, created by some members to show some of the
terse commentary to which they were subjected by those in command, and do so for the purpose of highlighting what should be the obvious disconnect
between words of promise, action, and abject judgmental moderating.
-Ive allready used the complaint button, but Im takin this one public, because Im pissed now. I spent an hour creating that post.
I studied every forum on ATS and placed it where I thought it belonged. There is definitly a consprical slant in it. And I guess since I got 3
WayAbove votes, the people must like it to.
After a couple of days of it moving along nicely, some knee-jerkin mod seems fit to throw it PTS where it now sits and hasnt even gotten a single
extra view. Thanks mods. I guess only closet homosexuals, or racist black "prophets" with their little balloons are ATS worthy now.
So, you've decided that ATS is now your personal discussion board? You can post as you like because you're in a certain mood?
People whine, moderators have valid points
You know, 2 threads were closed while discussion were going on and I think that sucks.
Another consiracy, why didn't you use the "suggestions" button rather than this drama bomb?
I have done that before many times and nothing was solved.It's a waste of time IMO.And it's not another consiracy.Why do people always
start off saying that crap.
That is the last thing we need. Personally, I'd trash this thread. We are discourage from modding by personal feelings and I
believe this is correct.
Yes it is Board Questions & Business, not the Whine and Cheese Forum.
: BE INFORMED CYBER-DRAMA THREAT
On June 20th, 2005 I started a thread that asked people to attempt to prove the existance of time as a qualifiable and real thing rather
than an assumed abstract idea.
The point of the thread was that time is only assumed and may no really exist. In line with denying ignorance, I left it open for debate to get people
Seeing as how its been 24 action and i have not received even a responce to this, I bring it up here. Now if it was just based on some ATS policy i
wouldn't even second guess it, however I call bias.
XXX moved my thread to BTS (a less viewed forum) saying that it would only cause philosophical debate. I sent XXX a U2U stating the intent was indeed
to bring up the fact that the idea of time in science is a fundemental flaw and assumption that we allow to go uncontrolled.
Instead of bitching, why not try contacting another mod or admin via U2U or the Comments/Complaint Form?
BTW pandoas_box, if you don't like it here, see that little button up top that says "log out"? Feel free to use it.
I'm just wondering if there is an opt out list I can sign up for to no longer receive the emails for the council positions.
I've received 14 u2u's in 2 days and am now deleting them like spam in an email inbox. Any opt out list I can sign up for or is this political
campaigning almost over with?
It takes about 10 times as long to complain about the u2u's as it does to press delete.
If you're not interested in learning about the candidates that is obviously your choice, and you are fully empowered to delete their messages.
I don't understand what there is to complain about. You hit delete and they vanish. Is it the 5 seconds of your time that you see "You have 5 new
I am thoroughly amazed that members of ATS, a site that claims to deny ignorance, has so many members who have no tolerance (or
interest?) for the ATS council campaign (mentioned in the Campaign Forum) or the u2us designed to inform members about the candidates.
I find the obsessive 'organizing' by some moderators to be well-meaning if misguided, such as XXX and the more poisonous workings by
XXX to be detrimental to a real interchange of ideas.
Give me a break. Does a librarian stop people from reading because they organize the books? Do they hide certain books because they
move them to a "backwater" shelf? Do they block free thoughts too by their actions?
Now I guess that goes for anyone who tries to organize things...video stores, food stores, drug stores, tire stores, etc, etc...
Yep, they all try and block free thinking. Or, maybe...you are just overly critical? Naw...
You feel you should attempt to lead a rebellion at this board because you don't get your way when your way goes against our terms
Why don't you go forth and start your own board if you are so unhappy with following the rules of this board?
Thread locked. Enough drama-wanting.
Even though usually banners and commercials on ATS really don't bother me, because I understand they are one of the reasons why ATS is
able to upgrade hardware every now and then, lately I see more and more "retarded" commercials popping up when I first hit abovetopsecret.com. "You
are the 10000000th visitor" "You have won a cruise" "Call this number within XXX seconds"
There really is no reason to have pesky pop-ups these days… It's easier to get rid of this junkware than it is to complain about
Can a mod please tell me who started this thread so I can reply via U2U msg?
What you want to discuss how to steal bandwith from corporations? "There's no such thing as a free lunch" applies here. Who do
you think pays for the phone lines, fiber-optics, the routers, the electricity to make it all work? "Tapping" into this is unauthorized and
considererd theft. Refer to rule #10 in the site Terms and Conditions…
Denied! No one is going to post/discuss this information here.
I wasn't aware that the thread violated the TOS through inquiry. It just seemed exceptionally ignorant so I wanted to reply
It's not a secret. You can get free Internet access at you local library.
Take your complaints to U2U
Crying Mod day? Dude, we're reaching out to the membership, if you wish to just "bitch", please, use the "suggestions" button.
This is getting tiresome.
We are going to get decisions that will upset members sometimes, people just have to get used to it, and take the issue to utu's
rather than here.
If you have a problem, you know you can u2u me any time you want, but please, why not try and not create board drama, huh?
Here, your "freedom of speech" is a privilege granted by the owner of this website. Any topic whatsoever can easily be discussed without
insults, vulgarities, and taunting language. Our management style, organized structure, and efficient services are designed to created an environment
in which members aspire to our higher standards, not scoff at them.