Another one for our resident sub experts: could this really be true, or is it just the figment of someones imagination?
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THE SINKING OF THE KURSK AND WHY IRAN HAS NEW TORPEDOES *PIC*
Posted By: FarSight3
Date: Sunday, 13 February 2005, 6:59 p.m.
In Response To: US SUB SSN 711 DAMAGE PICTURES RELEASED... *PIC* (FarSight3)
On August 12, 2000 the Russian Typhoon-class submarine KURSK (K-141) sank in the Barents Sea at the depth of 108 meters during tactical military
exercise of the Russian Northern Fleet. Officially - 118 submarine crewmembers perished in the accident of the 154 meter nuclear powered colossus.
At the end of July, 2002, the governmental commission for investigation of the "Kursk" submarine accident finished its work, and its head, Ilya
Klebanov, announced its findings, officially putting the "Kursk" incident to rest. The official version written in stone was: An exploding torpedo
inside the sub is what caused the disaster.
Anyone who carefully followed the "Kursk" tragedy senses that this official governmental story is a complete falsehood. Since the tragedy there have
been many unofficial publications published in Russia shedding light on the matter.
Even Admiral Vladimir Kuroedov, Commander of the Russian Navy, said soon after the 'accident' that he was 80% sure a foreign submarine sank the
Kursk. Mr Klebanov immediately was out in the media the other day claiming that he did not share the viewpoint of the Admiral, and would rather wait
for the investigation results of the Governmental Inquiry Commission.
The surface vessels and submarines of NATO countries monitor regularly military exercises of the Northern Fleet. In particular, the Norwegian
intelligence vessel Marjata was observed several times during the present and past exercises. American officials confirm that a U.S. Navy electronic
intelligence ship was tracking Kursk during the exercises in the Barents Sea although the vessel was four hundred kilometres away.
On the Aug., 19 a nuclear submarine of the Los Angeles class came into the Norwegian naval base Haakonsvern/Bergen and anchored close to the frigate
of Oslo class as Russian intelligence satellite photos from that day have showed us. This boat - possibly the Memphis or Toledo - showed considerable
damages in the bow. The thick rubber-ceramic skin of the submarine was torn off and the inner steel-structure seemed also damaged. Photos with naval
base and the damaged submarine in the pier become a Top Secret matter...
The US sub stayed for necessary repaired for 8 days and departed on Aug. 27 for Southampton for final repairs in the closed docks.
Suddenly the CIA's director had arrived in Moscow for unknown reasons - possibly to hush up the conflict and to prevent a possible war. The Russian
authorities knew about the truth concerning the accident. On the August, 19 the published photo was given to the Russian minister of defense and to
commander-in-chief who was having a rest in Sochi.
The authorities of Russia and USA have agreed to hide the truth about debacle and so to prevent a possible conflict.
What could have happened really?
American military journal "Jane's Fighting Ships" for 2000-2001 writes: "The atomic submarine "Memphis" of the "Los Angeles" class, numbered
No. 691, was re-equipped in 1989 as a testing platform for new types of experimental technologies, including new types of weaponry".
Now a piece of metal, a fragment of the body of that same ill-fated torpedo, was found cause the explosion. Here's what the experts write about this
fragment: "...there's a piece of metal from the body of the torpedo which shows signs of the local influence of heat on its outer side... On the
outer edge of this metallic fragment there are signs of the presence of high heat, more than 500°C... On the remainder of this torpedo body fragment
the paint is unharmed."; "...we can confirm with a high degree of certainty that a powerful and sudden physical and heat impact was directed at the
torpedo from the outside, from the left side of the inner hull of the submarine."
In fact, only a part of the torpedo shows signs of a "powerful and sudden physical and heat impact". What could have caused it? A beam of fire, a
stream of incandescent gases, an explosion of a cumulative charge, or any similar phenomenon. It's important to note the circumstance that the
supposed cumulative charge hit the torpedo from the outside, just at the place where it was unprotected by the outer hull of the sub.
We can theorize about the nature of the supposed weapon used, but one thing is clear: The demise of the "Kursk" was brought about not by internal
factors, not by an explosion inside the sub or a mistake of the crew. No. The "Kursk" was hit by a "powerful outside impact". This is witnessed by
the results of the investigation of the fragments.
NATO's small anti-ship torpedos, both the MK-50 and the "Stingray", are armed with cumulative charges....
What conclusions were made and decisions taken after the "Kursk" disaster? Navy head Admiral Kuroyedov issued an order to immediately remove all
"fat" torpedos of classes 298 and 298A from the Russian fleet – those very same torpedos which Klebanov and Ustinov blame for the tragedy. And
it's just this decision, in the opinion of specialists and high ranking Russian Military, which could have fatal consequences for Russia's whole
military doctrine. Generalsky don't like this. A further hint for Putin's efforts to claim back his decisive power over the military at that time?
Why fatal consequences for Russia's Navy? Let's take a closer look at these torpedos, the 298 and 298A, called "fat boys" for their large 650 mm.
caliber. They were created specially to do battle with the large ships of the US Navy, above all with aircraft carriers and their escorts.
From the moment of its appearance 20 years ago Russia's "fat" torpedo has been a chronic headache for American admirals. At the beginning of the
1980's the USA adopted a new strategic conception with the main accent on naval power (carrier attack groups and submarines armed with strategic
nuclear missiles). And here's the Soviet "fat boy", capable of breaking the back of any US aircraft carrier from an unthinkable distance....
Food for thoughts?
But there is still another interesting 'theory' that emerged in the wake of the sinking of the Kursk:
There have been 'VIPs' on board at the time of the 'accident'! Namely THREE high ranking Militaries - one from China (sic!) and two 'unspecified
Arabs'. They were flown on board by helicopters for a demonstration of a 'new weapon' that could really topple the strategies of sea warfare: A
HYPERSONIC TORPEDO called 'Shkval', developed by Russian scientists. The US-Navy seems to have something similar - called 'Supercav' – high
velocity MHD torpedos! These torpedoes blow hot gas, provided by a secondary rocket. This gas is injected in the water just in front of the torpedo.
The heat of this gas vapourises the sea water allowing the torpedo to move in such a bubble of vapor at higher velocities, up to 1500 knots.
Now there have been latest efforts to design an even faster weapon on a magneto-hydro-dynamic basics: MHD torpedos. (Anybody remembers Clansey's
'Red October'?) These are also propelled by a solid propellent rocket and moreover on the "divergent" of this rocket, a MHD generator transforms
the kinetic energy of the gas into electricity. The system uses a wall MHD convertor. The electricity is sent to the linear electrodes of a MHD wall
accelerator which sucks the water backwards very strongly canceling the friction drag. According to infos back from 1980, the velocity of the torpedo
was about 6000 knots. 6000 knots! Under water...
But back to the (possible) happenings in the Kursk.
The US secret service defense could have been informed about the planned demonstration. So the NATO-submarine could have approached the Kursk and
ordered it to break surface and hand them over the chinese VIP, stop the exercise or disturb it otherwise. The Russians did not answer. As a
consequence, the decision to sink the Kursk or to mess with the 'ongoing' demonstration could have been taken for 'torpedoeing' any future
business harming the interests of the US. At any costs...
The Barents sea is not so deep where the Kursk sank. Considering its height the upper door of rescue chamber should be only 90 meters below the
surface. All the submarine's crew men have individual rescue suits. In Europe, these suits are designed by the UK Beaufort Company. Additionally
there were two rescue-subs on board, capable of evacuating the whole crew of the Kursk.
Interestingly – a paper was found in the pocket of a Kursk seaman. He wrote (in obscurity, it was said) : "We are in the rescue chamber. Two
officers are trying to handle the door. The said they know the system very well. But it seems to be locked."
Now what happened - up to my sparely infos - was that the decision was taken immediately after the 'accident' to protect the anonymity of the VIPs
at any price. The Admiral ship "Peter the First", who was in charge of all operations in the area, sent a sonar-command which immediately locked all
doors of the submarine and moreover cancelled all possibilities for communication with the surface. Order was given to all ships located around:"The
first to approach the Kursk, will be sunk!"
Then the Russians tried to pick up their VIPs on board. A Russian ship approached the Kursk with two small submarines aboard. One was put at sea and
reached the wreck. As only eight men could come aboard, the crew of the Kursk did not believe they would come back to save them A mutiny occured and
some members of the crew were killed. The officer who kept the arms on board had been found dead with a bullet in his head after the Kursk rescue...
So the small submarine went back to his Russian carrier.
Putin decided to let the crew of the Kursk die as there were more important things at stake.
Later the wreck was recovered, not to recover the corpses but to hide the evidences. The torpedo chamber, with its enlarged tubes was destroyed down
deep and the MHD torpedoes were recovered, including the precious Granit supersonic missiles.
See pic below of the recovered hull of the Kursk with a 'strange' hole, indicating an impact from the outside...
Now read the latest news from Iran, claiming a 'new' superdupersecret torpedoe and draw your own conclusions:
TEHRAN, Feb. 12 (Xinhuanet) -- Iran Saturday launched a productionline of torpedoes in order to promote its defense capability at seaas the United
States has recently escalated its threats on Tehran,the official IRNA news agency reported.
Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani said at the launch ceremony thatthe production marked completion of "the Islamic Republic'sdefensive cycle at sea."
"Iran's marine units have now achieved an effective weapon witha complicated and modern technology in confronting surface andunder-sea threats,"
Shamkhani said, adding the torpedoes could bemounted on helicopters, surface vessels and submarines."Some of the important features of this weapon
are thepossibility to use it in shallow waters, without being spotted byradars, as well as its extraordinarily high speed, while beingnotably
cost-effective," he said....
War on Error, Part 141: "Sinking evidence of China"
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