Originally posted by billybob
muaddib, if i was wrong about this, howard would have called me on it right away. his response to this is, "i don't agree with those
calculations", not, "that is bad science".
Billybob, you are wrong. You are so far from even knowing what you are talking about is not even funny. You are taking a known law/equation, that of
the conservation of energy, avoiding (or you simply don't know...) the existance of the other two laws of conservation that go along with the law of
conservation of energy, and then you make up your own assumptions as to the result that will ensue when applying
these laws in practical terms,
two of which, as i said before, you seem to conviniently have forgotten, or didn't know at all.
Originally posted by billybob
i'll go through it again, because if you're going to continue all your super successful "debunking", LOL, you will need to understand this simple
physics law. the law of conservation of energy.
First of all, as i was saying, the law of conservation of energy goes along with the law of conservation of momentum, and conservation of mass, forgot
about those?.... Just as the law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, the law of conservation of momentum
states that momentum cannot be created nor destroyed, it only changes just like energy. The law of conservation of mass states exactly the same, mass
cannot be created nor destroyed, it just changes according to Newton's laws of motion.
Meaning, even with all the resistance of each floor falling upon the other floors, momentum will change but not enough, because the mass of each floor
is not nearly enough to stop the momentum of the falling mass, which is greater. Not only that but with each floor that falls, more mass is added to
the equation, until the momentum of the falling mass is stopped by the opposite reaction of the mass at the bottom floor, (mass) which is far larger
than the mass of the entire structure.
Sound, is a form of energy, and just like any other form of energy, it cannot be either created nor destroyed, it already exists in a constant wave
spectrum, which changes when an opposite vibrating force is applied to this constant wave spectrum, or when the interaction is between two waves.
BTW, you should know that it has been demonstrated that electrons manifest in a wave-particle duality, meaning they exist in both wave form (energy,
sound) and particle form (mass), they are intrinsic, and cannot be separated. Do you understand what this means hillbilly boy?
Because of the wave-particle duality of electrons, when two objects crash there is a vibration when the waves interact with each other...and what is
vibration?...sound. The mass of an object is not tranformed into a wave form, because wave and particle are intrinsic, and exist in duality.
Originally posted by billybob
the reason a tower all of a sudden falling all by itself would make no sound, and have no puff of smoke, is because 100% of the energy available would
be converted from gravity into motion.
What in the world are you talking about?.... Neither of the towers collapsed all by itself, or themselves.... Each tower was hit by a plane...which
causes more stress to the structure. Not only that, but the mass of the planes were added to the total mass of the structure, and the top portions of
the structure were compromised already by the crash. There were also fires from the fuel burning, and all the inflammable materials inside the
towers, which greatly increased stress in the structure of the buildings. All these things together brought the towers down.
Originally posted by billybob
every time there is a crash, the energy to create that sound comes from the same source as the energy of collapse, ie. gravity.
Wrong... you are contradicting yourself hillbilly boy, first you say that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, which is true, and then you claim
that sound is created?..... Sound is a form of energy hillbilly boy....it cannot be created nor destroyed.
Originally posted by billybob
AND THERE WAS MOLTEN STEEL IN THE BASEMENT FOR WEEKS AFTERWARDS(it takes a great deal of energy to melt steel), ......it would be like getting into a
dodge viper with a gallon of gas in it, and driving at 160 mph from NY to LA.
First of all where is the
evidence of these molten pools of steel remaining in a molten state for 5 weeks without any source of power to
maintain the steel in a molten form?.... where is the evidence? without evidence you are speculating.
There is a possibility of small pools of aluminum found, but aluminum does not stay in a molten state for 5 weeks either, without having some form of
energy that maintains it that way. All you have as evidence is the supposed account from a site, which i am sorry to say, it is not reliable.
Second of all, you are trying to compare oranges with apples with the analogy you made....
Originally posted by billybob
there has to be a massive external source of energy to account for all the work that was done(work in the physics sense, my little messiah of
dune).
Let me guess...two airplanes crashing into the towers and the fires are not external forces?..... Or in the case of WTC7, the collapse of the towers,
or at least WTC2, (or whichever it was, can't remember if it was wtc1 or wtc2) which caused significant damage to WTC7 and the ensuing fires which
lasted for about 7 hours....those are not external forces either?.....
Originally posted by billybob
do you understand the law of conservation of energy, now? because all the physicists in la la land understand it.
i think I have clearly shown that I understand it better than you do hillbilly boy.
Oh one more thing, if i chose the name Muaddib, it is not because i believe to be a messiah.... i chose it because I am a fan of the book and the
sci-fi movie Dune....not because of any dellusions of being a messiah....
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[edit on 29-6-2005 by Muaddib]