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U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.
There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The educated rumor is that the actual death toll is in excess of 7,000. Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded, this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 1,400+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources. In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers , rapes, courts martial and so on...
Marine's death, hospital's flaws
Lance Cpl. Jonathan E. Gadsden of Jamestown, S.C., was severely injured in Iraq last August by a roadside bomb. He was on the mend at Haley and was tentatively scheduled to be discharged, but he died unexpectedly of bacterial meningitis Oct. 22.
Bacterial meningitis is an infection of the fluid in the spinal cord and the fluid that surrounds the brain. Doctors at Haley failed to diagnose the condition before his death, the report said.
"An underlying theme that emerges is that many of the (Haley) clinical staff simply did not grasp how inherently fragile this patient was," the report released Wednesday said, resulting in "less intensive diagnostic evaluations."
Forces: U.S. & Coalition/Casualties
Lance Cpl. Jonathan E. Gadsden 21
1st Combat Engineer Battalion, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force Charleston, South Carolina
Gadsden died October 22, 2004, at James A. Haley Veterans' Hospital in Tampa, Florida, of injuries he received due to enemy action in Al Anbar Province, Iraq, on August 21, 2004.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Have you no shame? Of course people will question the source. It is a patently false report and you should be heavily fined for posting such bandwidth wasting tripe and your reference to Bush as a Butcher is utterly stupid.
Originally posted by longbow
6200 deads in German hospitals??? Please. Battle wounds are not cancer!!! If you dont die in first 24hours, you will very likely survive. And now someone tells us that there are more dead in hospitals than on battlefield?
GradyPhillpott Said: you should be heavily fined for posting such bandwidth wasting tripe.
Originally posted by Souljah
As I said - take it or leave it.
Originally posted by Souljah
U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate.
Ofcourse Most of You will deny the Source of this news - but there you have it.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
What bothers me more than the amount dead, believe it or not, is the number of service men and women coming home who are maimed, crippled and traumatized for the rest of their lives.
Will their spouses leave them b/c of the burdon? Many do.
Will they ever be able to work again and lead a somewhat productive life?
Will they kill themselves?
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A Bush-watcher website identified as TBRNews.org is reporting under the byline of "domestic intelligence reporter" Brian Harring that the Department of Defense is using a cynical tactic to mislead the public regarding the true death toll for American military personnel in Iraq. Harring claims he has an internal pdf. file from the D.O.D. which establishes that nearly 9000 Americans have died in Operation Iraqi Freedom, but that the official number has been held to 1713 by designating as Iraq deaths only those who perish on Iraqi soil. The remainder, he says, are military personnel who have died en route to Germany or in German hospitals-- casualties of the war, but not listed in the official death toll.Link
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The Bush Butcher’s Bill: Officially, 63 US Military Deaths in Iraq from 1 through 17 May, 2005 – Official Total of 1,814 US Dead to date (and rising)
U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.
by Brian Harring, Domestic Intelligence Reporter.
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Sen. Biden: 'I'm Not Allowed To Be There When The Flag-Draped Casket Comes In' ...
I'm allowed in the military base. I'm not allowed to go to the mortuary," he said.
Senator Biden added that it is his understanding that the policy originates with Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.
Originally posted by Herman
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
What bothers me more than the amount dead, believe it or not, is the number of service men and women coming home who are maimed, crippled and traumatized for the rest of their lives.
Will their spouses leave them b/c of the burdon? Many do.
Will they ever be able to work again and lead a somewhat productive life?
Will they kill themselves?
Good thing it's volunteer army, huh!?
Originally posted by Odium
Yes, it is such a good thing it is a volunteer Army. Now instead of forcing people to join, they target those who can't afford to get into College.