Officer suspended after using taser on 13 year old girl...twice, page 1

Seems to me that there have been alot of reports lately of police officers using their tasers in excess.Not being in law enforcement I'm not aware of what constitutes the use of a taser or stungun on someone..other than it being a "non-lethal"means of stopping a criminal.But to tase a 13 year old child..not once but twice???

www.local6.com...

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- An officer has been suspended for zapping a 13-year-old girl at least twice with a stun gun while she was handcuffed in his caged patrol car.

Nelson and his partner had been called to the apartment Kallead shares with her mother Rosie Vaughan because they were fighting Feb. 7. Vaughan wanted police to help get medical help for her daughter, who had been hospitalized for observation in the past for emotional disorders, the newspaper said.

Nelson, a 6-foot-2 officer weighing 300 pounds, allegedly used the low-setting stun mode when the 4-foot-8 Kallead wormed the handcuffs from behind her back and would not do as directed. "The situation was under control at this point," the internal report said.

Sgt. D.E. Smith, who was called to the scene, said, "Please don't tell me this is the person you Tased."

The date of Feb.7th is odd to me.Why is this story being told now?Either way the officer involved received training as an instructor in January
An officer that has been trained to be an instructor tasing a 13 year old girl that was handcuffed and in the back of a caged partol car and all he gets is suspended???So what if she had wiggled the cuffs from behind her back she was still handcuffed.This cop should be fired!If he can't use his best judgement or is that damn trigger happy to stungun a child he DOES NOT need to be wearing the uniform of a cop.

IMO I think that cops are seeing their new weapons that are suppose to be non lethal as toys and have to play with them...
There was another thread on here about a man being tased to death when he was already in a restraint chair but I can't find it now.Will anything happen to these cops for this?

Perhaps these officers that are carrying tasers should be zapped a few times on the highest setting to see just how it feels.I have never been tased but have seen the effects of it.Maybe when they are laying on the ground in a puddle of their own urine or left drooling all over themselves maybe....maybe they will think twice before using it on someone that obviously doesn't need to be stunned.

Police are trained to be able to take down and restrain even the biggest men...do they really need to tase a kid?
For those of you that will come on this thread to defend the officer's actions (and I know there will be someone to say something in his defense)all I have to say is what would you do as a parent if you found out or saw a cop tase your child?Would you still defend him?

Simon

Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux

Perhaps these officers that are carrying tasers should be zapped a few times on the highest setting to see just how it feels.I have never been tased but have seen the effects of it.Maybe when they are laying on the ground in a puddle of their own urine or left drooling all over themselves maybe....maybe they will think twice before using it on someone that obviously doesn't need to be stunned.
Simon

In order for a police officer in the state of Florida to be qualified to carry a Taser, they have to go through a training class which involves them being Tased themselves…

By way of example: www.officer.com...


[edit on 5/20/2005 by defcon5]

Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux
I wonder if the officer fired the darts into the girl or if he touched the taser to her?

The Tasers that they carry around my area look like a gun and can be used either way, either with or without firing the darts, they just pull the dart package off the front of the gun. I would imagine that he just touched her with the probes, but that is just a guess.

Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux
Do you know if the darts actually penetrate the skin or if they just stick to the clothing?

The darts look exactly like a fishing hook that has been straightened out with a groove down one side. The hooks will go through clothing and into the skin. EMS has a special tool that they use when they arrive on seen that they line up with the groove in the hook and it slides under the skin and removes the hook. I don’t think that you would want to try and pull one out by hand anymore then you would try it with a fishing hook. They have longer hooks for use in the northern states that are made to penetrate thicker clothing.

Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux
In the article they talked instead of firing the darts at the two officers they just attached the electrodes to them.If it penetrates the skin I think the officers should have been subjected to that as well to give them the full feeling of what they would be doing to someone in the event they had to use it.

Back when the officers I knew had to go through this they did, but perhaps they have gotten away from it since the real pain comes from the shock anyway not the darts, and there is increased risk with using the darts such as misfiring or hitting the wrong area. The main reason for using the darts and staying back from the target is to prevent them from reaching around and grabbing the officer who then would also receive a shock as well. Just like in high school when you played with a Vandograph Generator and would line up and have one guy touch it and the last one in line would receive the shock.

Edit to add:

This X-26 is either the same or very similar to the type that the officers I know carry.

www.taserx26.com...





[edit on 5/20/2005 by defcon5]

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