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Topic started on 13-5-2005 @ 09:46 PM by darwinman1
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Well, there seems to be a bit going on out there on other threads about one David Eells. He runs a website
called Americas Last Days. The big question is, who is this guy? Is he a total hack or wackjob? Opening
this up for discussion because it seems there at least a few (menagerie?) who have something to say about this guy.
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reply posted on 14-5-2005 @ 10:35 AM by BadMojo
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Eells is very insightful. I have read his site. He backs his conclusions with scripture and has sound logic. I agree with a great deal of what he
has to say. I suggest reading it to everyone. And now, darwin, I will suggest that you read it...very informative.
His information is given freely. He isn't promoting books or tapes and doesn't ask for donations. I would say he is a teacher before a prophet, and
profit never entered my mind while visiting his website.
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reply posted on 15-5-2005 @ 12:09 AM by freddieb
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It is informative. However, all so called religous "prophets" use scripture and some type of logic to back up or should I say bolster their
"prophecies".
The problem with that is the same problem that christians pose when they try to prove what they feel is true by using the bible as part of their
truth. They say it is so because the bible says it is so. It's like me saying the sky is green and then refering to quotes from a thread that I wrote
that calls the sky green as a valdation. If I am making my point clearly? I hope that I am.
The Bible is a book and fortunately for those that use it to bolster their claims of prophecy, a book full of obscure, obtuse passages that give no
detail or precision for those prophecies. The reader and/or the "prophet" is left to interpret them as best as they can.
All through the centuries including the first century AD. " prophets" have been using the scriptures to predict the "Final Days" and "The
End".
If he wasn't trying to sell books, tapes and speaking engagements, I'd think better of him. His website material is free. At his seminars and
speaking engagements he offers a much more in depth version of these materials, "that can't be offered on his websites because of space
restrictions" for a cost of $32.00 for books and $25.00 per tape. I know, because he came to my mother-in-law's church to speak and she bought them.
In addition he was paid a fee for the speaking engagement.
I think IMO, he is more Profit than Prophet.
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reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 11:54 PM by CincyNati
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I have been listening to David Eells since 2006, I was very curious and cautious as I listened to him, not that I saw any signs of fraud or wrongdoing
but I am just very careful about religious leaders. After listening to 1000's of hours of his teachings I must say this man really is nothing to get
bent out of shape about. He is one of the most humble men I have seen in the Christian community. Like the above comment he doesn't ask for money,
and doesn't try to get people to be his followers and join up with him. He just likes teaching the Bible. He is not a prophet but out of the five
fold ministry I have known him to say he was ordained a teacher.
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reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 10:20 AM by Anonymous ATS
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How can a guy who is passionate about the Gospel of Jesus Christ eb in the game for profit, if he doesn't ask for money or SELL his publications. If
anybody wants to read his books but can't pay, he simply gives that person the book for free. You can even download full publications off his
website. How many other publishers can boast with that? This guy is genuinely humble and is a servant of the Almighty God.
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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 08:01 AM by Anonymous ATS
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The Prophecy Club used to sell his materials not David Eells. He was on their lecture circuit for a while but is no longer associated with them.
David Eells, in my opinion, is the real deal.
The Prophecy Club on the other hand are simply fear mongering merchandisers.
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reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 04:22 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Check the website, he DOES ask for donations.
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reply posted on 1-10-2008 @ 06:44 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I am a follower of David Eells Ministry, (Unleavened Bread Ministries), or Americas Last Days. I recently contacted the ministry to become associated
with them in their DVD ministry, copying and distributing at MY own cost. This is considered a ministry and I was excited to be able to financially
offer myself and my finances to get the word out. To my surprise I received an email from David stating that at this time there was no need for
additional help in this area. I was shocked, but uplifted that God is supplying every need for the ministry, WITHOUT asking for donations, or selling
books and tapes. I've not met him personally, but he seems to be extremely humble and just has a wonderful Servants Heart. He's shown himself to
me, to be a totally Sold Out Teacher of the Word.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 08:44 PM by Anonymous ATS
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To Anon:
If you want to speak negatively of him or his ministry, why don't you link to where you claim that he asks for donations, instead of just claiming
it??
Don't make yourself look stupid.... back up your claim.
>>reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 04:22 AM by Anonymous ATS
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>>Check the website, he DOES ask for donations.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:06 PM by lushyslushy
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 09:18 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Prophet for Profit? No Way!!I have known David Eells since 2005 and he has never asked anyone for anything. He gives away thousands of books,
DVD's & Cd's away at no cost. So far, I have received cases of his book "Sovereign God" and have gien them away,at no cost to myself or those I
give them too.David lives the Word which teaches to be givers not receivers. He lives very humbly, and those who are elders in that ministry live
very humbly.
I can assure you the only profit David Eells is interested in is that which is spiritually stored up in the Kingdom of God.
I once semt in a prayer request asking for agrrement that my computer would "be fixed supernaturally" or that I would find the finances to buy a new
one. I had read testimonies from others of how God "healed" their crashed hard drives and other similiar things that we don't noramlly even think
excercising our faith for. A few days later I received a phone call asking if I would allow them the blessing of purchasing a new computer for me.
David teaches the Bible and it says that if someone asks something of you, you should give it.He tells about how he learned to give and not even hold
back money in the bank for paying bills but giving it to people if they had a need. He does this this because he walks by faith in God knowing God
will meet all of his needs when the need arises and so he doesn't hoard money or hold it back when those around him have a need.He learned to trust
the Word and excercise his faith by starting out small and trusting God in more "challegening areas".
I have been in every Bible study on Sundays and Wed. with the exception of about 4, since the fall of 2005. Never once in any of those 3 hour Bible
studies have I ever heard him even hint that he or the ministry had any type of need whatsoever, and I know there have been needs. Sadly, some think
that walking by faith is announcing to friends or the congregation that they are "believing God to meet " this need or that need". They beleive
this is giving others a chance to give and be blessed but it is not faith at all. AT best it is a form of emotional maniputlation. Tactics like this
are used frequesntly in many "big named" Chruches, but the so called Shepherds and the sheep, but this is not walking by faith. Walking by faith is
taking your need to God not man and beleiving that have received already what you have asked for; then allowing God to meet it in the way he chooses.
David shares in the book "Hidden Manna for the End times", many testimonies of how God has honored his trust and faith in God and God's promises.He
shares how at one point, after just moving to FL, they had no food in the house. His wife asked him what she should do for supper and he instructed
her to set the table as usual. They sat down and David prayed and asked the Lord to provide their need or fill their stomachs. Within seconds, one by
one, the children asked to be excused as their stomaches were full and they were no longer hungry. God had filled them supernaturally and had been
faithful to His Word. There are many more awesome testimonies in this book, and I highly recommend that everyone read the book online or listen to the
audio, or DVD.
After 4 years of being part of the UBM Bible studies, communicating with David via phone, and email, and having watched his walk before the world and
the Lord, I have to say ABSOLUTELY NOT, David Eells loves Jesus,the Body of Christ. He believes the Word which commands us TO WALK BY FAITH
AND NOT BY SIGHT and to deny ourselves, pick up our cross and follow Jesus Christ. This means not being a part of this world, loving the world or
worldly things. So again, NO, he is not a Prophet for profit. I don't ask anyone to believe me, but beleive the Word, which says in Matt. 7
that a bad tree can't produce good fruit, or a good tree-bad fruit. Look at the fruit, ask God, He will answer and if you are His sheep, you
will hear his voice clear.
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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:24 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I've been listening to David Eells for about 4 years and have learned more in that time than all the time I was in "church". He does not promote
himself but the Lord Jesus and gives the credit to the Lord Jesus for everything.
I've been on many of his sunday and wednesday night paltalk sessions and have never heard him begging for money. He gives to those that ask without
charge as instructed in Matthew 10:8 "...freely ye received, freely give."
Steve
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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:56 PM by sir_chancealot
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A sincere believer (and a good man) can still be wrong.
The only way to judge if he is a prophet or not is to look at his record. Has he ever been wrong on a prophesy? If so, then no matter how good he
is, he ISN'T a prophet.
That's right, to be considered a prophet (based on the bible) you have to have a 100% accuracy rate.
I do not know if he is a prophet or not, but he could still be wrong. After all, I don't recall Charles Manson asking for money for his stuff
either.
(Last minute thought: None of this should be read to denigrate David Eells. My point is that people should do their own homework.)
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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 06:00 PM by Anonymous ATS
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i would just like to point out here that David Eells does not claim that prophesy is the spiritual gift that God has given him, nor that it is the
office that God has given Him.
What he does do is teach the word of God, relay testimonies of himself and others who send them in, pray for people, he tells the understanding that
God has given him from the word of God including prophecy and he uses the word of God to back up what he is saying, he tells dreams and visions that
the Lord is giving himself, others in the ministry and other people who send them in.
When the Lord appears to be giving a prophetic dream of vision that is specific they ask the Lord for confirmations to be sure it is from the Lord and
they will post them on the website or read them in the bible studies. They do not claim that these things are for sure going to happen, they make sure
to be clear that these are dreams or visions that people are getting and they encourage people to compair all things with the word of God and to ask
for confirmations.
I really am not sure why so many people claim that Eells claims he is a prophet because i have listened to him for years and read his books, read the
articles on his site etc and have never seen him claim to be a prophet and he is very careful when he believes dreams visions words etc are from God
to clarify himself that he believes this is what God is showing but we will see...
anyways, there is much good edification there on how to walk by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, today and in the hard days to come.
( only signed in as anonymous user because i dont rememeber by login )
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reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 10:22 AM by Anonymous ATS
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