IDF Kills Palestinians to STEAL ORGANS FOR TRANSPLANTS, page 1
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Topic started on 23-7-2003 @ 05:26 AM by CoLD aNGeR
The Zionist state has tacitly admitted that doctors at the Israeli forensic institute at Abu Kabir had extracted the vital organs of three Palestinian teenage children killed by the Israeli Army nearly ten days ago.

Zionist Minister of Health Nessim Dahhan said in response to a question by Arab member of the Zionist Parliament 'Knesset', Ahmed Teibi, on Tuesday that he couldn't deny that organs of Palestinian youths and children killed by the Israeli forces were taken out for transplants or scientific research.

"I couldn't say for sure that something like that (taking out the organs) didn't happen."

Teibi said he had received credible evidence proving that Israeli doctors at the forensic institute extracted such vital organs as the heart, kidneys, and liver from the bodies of Palestinian youths and children killed by the Israeli Army in Gaza and the West Bank.

The Israeli authorities normally detain the bodies of martyred Palestinians for a few days without any explanation.

The Israeli Army on December 30 killed three Palestinian boys, aged 14-15 near Khan Younis in unclear circumstances.

The army issued conflicting reports on the killing, while Palestinian sources charged that Israeli troops murdered the three unarmed boys in cold blood.

The bodies of the three boys were handed over to the Palestinians for burial on 6 January.

However, shortly before burial, Palestinian medical authorities examined the bodies and found out that the main vital organs were missing from the bodies.

The Israeli media have nearly completely ignored the affair.

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THE WEBSITE TO READ ABOUT THIS INSANITY:
ukar.org...


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reply posted on 23-7-2003 @ 08:33 AM by ThePrankMonkey
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar



Cold, why aren't there more people reading or responding to this... do you need to change the title?

Or maybe people are lost for words?



i hold this belief that some people here in america have been trained to believe that jews and israelis are nothing but victims and some would deny them doing this. i believe this is why this thread is getting as little attention as it is. i think some people dont want to believe israeli is doing these sorts of things much less capable of doing these things.

palestinians throw rocks and resort to guerilla warfare and israelis roll in with tanks and heavily armed miltary personnel. seems to me victims of bullies are generally smaller and more importanlt weaker. since they have a stronger military force (no thanks to our government for helping to perpetuate the fighting there) i fail to see why so many think the israelis are being bullied.

on a side note i think our government should leave the entire region and give no more money or supplies to anyone there and let them settle it among each other. i am tired of my government giving billions of dollars and military supplies to israel and at the same time putting on this act that my goverment wants to create peace there. i can see why the palestinians, arabs and muslims in the area feel like america is against them. and i cant say i blame them. my government pays them lip service about wanting peace in the middle east and then turns around and gives more tanks, more ammunition rifles grenades and more to the israelis to use against them. yeah i can see why they'd be a little angry at us.


reply posted on 24-7-2003 @ 04:00 AM by CoLD aNGeR
Originally posted by Netchicken
Its BS, pure and simple palastinian propaganda.




I am sorry Netchicken, this time you won´t discredit this just by doing a critic like that, first of all the source is Ukranian, i know u will say, "who will believe a source coming from there" but we start saying that is not Palestinian Propaganda as u all say (because it´s the only excuse you keep on using on articles like that avoiding the point of it).
Anyway here u have info of the site, and tell me that they are nazis or palestinians and will laugh my ass off. When u read it post what u think about the source and regret what u said.

READ:
Israel has recently become something of a pariah in the transplant world. Without a strong culture of organ donation and under the pressure of angry transplant candidates, the Ministry of Health has refused to crack down on the country’s multi-million dollar business in transplant tourism that arranges junkets from dialysis clinics in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv to medical centres in Europe and the United States.

"Why should we Israelis be made to travel to third world clinics to get the kidneys we need to survive from the bodies of peasants, soldiers, or guest workers who may be in worse physical shape than ourselves?" a 71-year-old "kidney buyer" from Tel Aviv asked me rhetorically. "Organs should be seen as a human, not as a national resource." It was good to see "Avirham," an elderly gentleman, alive and happy with his revitalizing 22-year-old "peasant" kidney. And his living donor? "A peasant, without anything!" he replied. "Do you have any idea what $1,000, let alone $5,000 means in the life of a peasant?"

For most bio-ethicists, the "slippery slope" in transplant medicine begins with the emergence of a black market in organs and tissue sales. For the anthropologist, it emerges much earlier: the first time a frail and ailing human looks at another living person and realizes that inside that other body is something that can prolong his or her life. The desire is articulated: "I want that; I need that even more than you." In terms of transplants, the kidney has emerged as the ultimate fetish, promising to satisfy the most basic of human desires — that for life, vitality and élan.

The sale of human organs and tissues requires that certain disadvantaged individuals and populations have been reduced to the role of "suppliers." It is a scenario in which bodies are dismembered, transported, processed and sold in the interests of a more socially advantaged population of organ and tissue receivers. I use the word "fetish" advisedly to conjure up the displaced magical energy that is invested in the strangely animate kidney. Avirham, who flew from Jerusalem to Georgia for his kidney, explained why he would never tolerate a donation from a corpse: "That kidney is practically dead. It was probably pinned down under the wheels of a car for several hours... I was able to see my donor. He was young, healthy, strong. Just what I was hoping for."


Anyway for more accurate source ( UNESCO ) about the trade of human organs in the 3rd world countries
www.unesco.org/courier/2001_07/uk/doss34.htm

Not enough?
www.oneworld.org...

NOT ENOUGH? Here u got some of
Ugur Dündar, Haluk Sahin, and M. Ali Önel of Kanal D's ARENA, Hürriyet Production, Turkey

“'The International Transplant Mafia,” broadcast in two installments in 1997, exposed a human organ black-market network linking Turkey, the Czech Republic, and Israel. An Istanbul man, struggling to raise two young children, had agreed to sell one of his kidneys for $8,000 U.S. dollars but later contacted Arena, Turkey's lead investigative TV program, fearing that more than a kidney might be lost. An Arena reporter with a hidden camera, “I had to do something, you know, to save the kids. That meant I had to give a part of body. God help anyone from making such a decision. It was awful.” — Ramazan, 27-year-old father of two, Arena
posing as the donor's friend, accompanied him over the next several days to meetings with organ brokers and a Turkish surgeon. The operation was aborted at the last minute, when the Arena crew entered the hospital, cameras rolling. The surgeon was denounced by the country's medical board and was later tried, but Arena discovered another syndicate operating several months later in another city. This time posing as the donor, an Arena reporter met with an organ broker and agreed to sell his kidney for $5,000. A trip to the Czech Republic for the operation fell apart after Arena alerted police. The man confessed he was paid to arrange kidney transplants by his boss in Israel, where Arena reporters later unsuccessfully searched for the syndicate boss. Instead, they found the president of an association of patients waiting for kidney transplants, who said 50 Israelis had been saved in the last year by Turkish kidneys.

Source of this (International Consortium of Investigative Journalists)

www.icij.org...

When u are done with reading tell me,

UP next time
"Netchicken, don't tell me that you think CA mind about what you wrote ?

It was just another " anti-Israel " thread ( done by CA, as usual )"

Of course i did mind and i did reply, with sources and info, something that u didn´t, instead u limited your intelligence in say "another anti israel thread" , u could have read some, u didn´t i am sure u got the opinion from netchicken and u didn´t bother to read 1 sentence of all the page, now if u read this reply and the articles in it i´d like to see some smart reply from you sometime, because the only thing u keep saying UP is "anti israeli" but u don´t back up ANYTHING.

Enjoy the read both of you


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