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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Mahogani
I have been a database creator, administrator, and a senior business analyst and am very familiar with datamining techniques

If that is true then you know damn well that it is trivial to assign different access by roles, and that some data can be hidden from certain people with different access roles.

Yes. That is correct.

But he took an export of secure data that he had access to, and placed it into the public domain.

Doesn't matter what is, or isn't, secured on the original db.

This kind of data must be available to the public and to the rest of the scientific community so it can be examined and scrutinized. Secrecy is incompatible with science.

This summary data is normally published publicly once the dataset for the particular time-period (usually weekly), is complete and personally identifying data is removed so that it conforms to privacy legislation.

Data and Statistics - Te Whatu Ora

Although patient data, and to some extent provider data, was anonymized in this data breach, it can be deduced from that data what geographic locations had the higher number of mortalities, and this could easily be traced back to individual clinicians and doctors who were simply doing their job.

As the cause or reason of death was not linked in the data, it is totally invalid to assume that a vaccine, or a particular batch of what was a highly-standardized product, was the cause of death (because we have sufficient statistical proof that such was not the case, elsewhere).

Similarly, situations such as hospice or end-of-life care will always have higher mortality numbers than in the general community, and that distinction was not made clear in the stolen data.

There are already many who believe baselessly that the vaccines are deadly, and these people are likely to take potentially life-threatening action on the basis of nothing more than doom porn. There is sufficient precedent from around the world for us to be wary of such extremism based upon misinformation and to treat the situation with seriousness.

Science already has access to the data.

If you take a look at the data and cases you will see how Covid vaccines could be deadly or cause great damage. For a starter you can use my other thread where cover ups have been recorded of vaccine induced deaths.

The Covid vaccines have failed and were unnecessary in the first place. Most people had no measurable risk from this virus.

In New Zealand, they have not covered up data regarding deaths caused by the vaccine. There have been four deaths due to the vaccine and vaccine safety is closely monitored.

Overview of Vaccine Reports

We don't know this and we can't trust government sources for a failed campaign.

You have hard data with better credibility upon which you base this?

All anyone else seems to offer as proof is a vague distrust of government?

There is zero confidence in the Government informing the public or provide evidence about the Covid vaccines. We know they were lying all the way

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Rosby123

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Mahogani
I have been a database creator, administrator, and a senior business analyst and am very familiar with datamining techniques

If that is true then you know damn well that it is trivial to assign different access by roles, and that some data can be hidden from certain people with different access roles.

Yes. That is correct.

But he took an export of secure data that he had access to, and placed it into the public domain.

Doesn't matter what is, or isn't, secured on the original db.

This kind of data must be available to the public and to the rest of the scientific community so it can be examined and scrutinized. Secrecy is incompatible with science.

This summary data is normally published publicly once the dataset for the particular time-period (usually weekly), is complete and personally identifying data is removed so that it conforms to privacy legislation.

Data and Statistics - Te Whatu Ora

Although patient data, and to some extent provider data, was anonymized in this data breach, it can be deduced from that data what geographic locations had the higher number of mortalities, and this could easily be traced back to individual clinicians and doctors who were simply doing their job.

As the cause or reason of death was not linked in the data, it is totally invalid to assume that a vaccine, or a particular batch of what was a highly-standardized product, was the cause of death (because we have sufficient statistical proof that such was not the case, elsewhere).

Similarly, situations such as hospice or end-of-life care will always have higher mortality numbers than in the general community, and that distinction was not made clear in the stolen data.

There are already many who believe baselessly that the vaccines are deadly, and these people are likely to take potentially life-threatening action on the basis of nothing more than doom porn. There is sufficient precedent from around the world for us to be wary of such extremism based upon misinformation and to treat the situation with seriousness.

Science already has access to the data.

If you take a look at the data and cases you will see how Covid vaccines could be deadly or cause great damage. For a starter you can use my other thread where cover ups have been recorded of vaccine induced deaths.

The Covid vaccines have failed and were unnecessary in the first place. Most people had no measurable risk from this virus.

In New Zealand, they have not covered up data regarding deaths caused by the vaccine. There have been four deaths due to the vaccine and vaccine safety is closely monitored.

Overview of Vaccine Reports

We don't know this and we can't trust government sources for a failed campaign.

You have hard data with better credibility upon which you base this?

All anyone else seems to offer as proof is a vague distrust of government?

There is zero confidence in the Government informing the public or provide evidence about the Covid vaccines. We know they were lying all the way

I require something more concrete than feelz.

And 'Murricah is the modern home of the lynch mob.

a reply to: chr0naut

Nowadays, no feelz, your screwed.

Gut feeling = Massive

Intuition = stayin alive

Knowing = your there.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tanstaafl
But he took an export of secure data that he had access to, and placed it into the public domain.

So you don't like whistleblowers... got it...

Well, at least you acknowledge the validity of the data as presented in the OP.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tanstaafl
But he took an export of secure data that he had access to, and placed it into the public domain.

So you don't like whistleblowers... got it...

Well, at least you acknowledge the validity of the data as presented in the OP.

I like whistleblowers.

It's just that this guy isn't/wasn't one.

Not only did he release private data into the public arena, but he also messed with the data he released before doing so.

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Stone rolling still

dailytelegraph.co.nz...

Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change the world which yields most painfully to change. — Robert Kennedy

Last week, a New Zealand whistleblower, Barry Young, who until recently was an employee of the Ministry of Health, courageously came forward with statistical information about the experimental gene-based therapy “Covid” injection. The data was anonymised, according to Barry and the interviewer, Liz Gunn, and confirmed last night by the prime minister, which means that no personal information of the names of individuals was included, so their privacy was protected.

The CEO of the Ministry of Health reported that the data related to a large amount of vaccine-related information, and was published on an overseas website. It was reported in a Newshub article (4 December) that the man claimed in a video that “New Zealand has had a high number of excess deaths since the vaccine rollout.” He provided a substantial amount of statistical information in the release.

It is noted that the Ministry of Health has not denied there has been a high number of excess deaths since the “vaccine” rollout. It is also noted that there is no attempt to explain why there has been a high number of excess deaths since the rollout of the experimental gene-based therapy injection. The public would surely want to feel reassured that the MOH was doing all in its power to isolate why New Zealand is experiencing, what is understood to be the greatest increase of deaths in its history since the rollout, wouldn’t they?

The CEO of the Ministry of Health, Ms Apa, did state, “We are in the response stage right now and that requires very detailed analysis of the data that was released.” Strangely, Ms Apa, goes on to then categorically state that the “vaccination is safe and effective” and that there is “no evidence whatsoever that “vaccination” is responsible for excess mortality in New Zealand.”

Is this not putting the cart before the horse? Common-sense would surely call for the Ministry to complete their “very detailed analysis of the data that was released” first, wouldn’t it? Instead, the spokesperson doubles down on the allegation (backed by no evidence given in the news-report) that the experimental gene-based therapy injection is “safe and effective”. while not denying there have been excess deaths since the experimental-gene-based therapy injection. Does that make sense to you? To every-day New Zealanders, this would possibly be of serious concern.

The CEO of the Ministry of Health further reported that the whistleblower had “no clinical background or experience with vaccine knowledge”. But he is a statistician and can read numbers and analyse data as, according to the CEO, his job required him to look at this data and analyse it.

Dr Guy Hatchard points it out very well here and highlights that Barry has been apparently charged with “dishonestly accessing vaccination data”, but the public have not been told that accessing this vaccination data was his job. As Guy further explains, “He was doing his job, spotted a concerning red flag and went public after much heart-searching about the inaction of his employer whose job it is to protect public health.”

The CEO further stated that the MOH were, “doing everything it could to respond and safeguard people’s information.” But the prime minister has already confirmed that no personal information has been spread. It is difficult to see why that should be the MOH’s first concern, given that, over the past few years, New Zealanders have been required to announce their “vax” status to all and sundry, through the “vax-pass” system. Apparently this information is only private if you’ve died. Why is that?

New Zealand is experiencing an excess number of deaths since the rollout. The MOH has not denied this and that is not new information. NZDSOS (www.nzdsos.com) has been writing open letters to government officials in the MOH, to parliament, MPs, the Ombudsman, and the police, for several years now with factual data that is impossible to ignore — with an alarmingly zero response. There were some serious articles about it, as can be seen here, and here. It should have immediately stopped all mRNA injections while a full and honest investigation was made.

The Health Forum was also collating information, with mandated medical staff, on the many injured and incapacitated post-experimental injection, as well as those who had died. Many others were sounding the alarm, too. This abundance of information collated by these dedicated doctors and medical staff seemed far more accurate than what the Medsafe site was showing for deaths and injury.

This was not surprising though when considering that strangely, for an experimental injection, it wasn’t compulsory for medical staff to report side effects. Surely they would want to know? Liz Gunn —leader of the political party NZ Loyal, lawyer, and former journalist — had interviewed many of the bereaved and injured on FreeNZmedia. VFF also highlighted these concerns through RCR Radio and has done lengthy interviews, as has the online Daily Telegraph newspaper, NZDSOS, Counterspin Media, Dr. Guy Hatchard, and others. But there were certainly no alarm-bells sounding in main-stream media that should have been commensurate with such a steep escalation of deaths.

According to Newshub, the whistleblower had claimed a high number of excess deaths since the rollout,. And, despite many requests over the last few years for the full information — by NZDSOS and others — there had never before been information from the MOH on this vital subject. . It is understood that he had tried to alert his seniors to his concerns, as well as members of parliament, before it was made public. An injunction has now been placed on the detailed information provided by the whistleblower, so it is not able to be shown, although the information is already out in the public domain and has gone viral throughout the world.

There is no injunction on what the NZDSOS team and others have been reporting for several years though that confirms New Zealand deaths per year have accelerated at an alarming rate since the rollout of the experimental injection. In September/October of 2023 the death rate was 70% greater than over the same time in 2022, according to this report, dated 13 November 2023. In addition to the deaths, there are many, many stories of the injured who are so ill they can barely function.

Again, nobody in mainstream media, mainstream medicine, or government, is seriously talking about it. Instead, a “brush it under the carpet” approach continues to be taken as increasing numbers of New Zealanders die. Until now. Yet, even now there is a scrambling to deny there is any issue and the brave whistle-blower is — astoundingly — being attacked and accused of “mis-information”, despite the fact it was public health data that he made available, so how could it be “mis-information”?

Barry Young’s compassion, care, his sense of personal responsibility, and his love for fellow Kiwis appears to be what caused him to

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I like whistleblowers. It's just that this guy isn't/wasn't one.

Did you miss the memo on the 9 pages of side effects? Link. What happens to the death count when these conditions are also considered, expect a lot more 4. Who know just what else death and disability will result from such a novel technology?

Appears more like you are restricted by an Non Disclosure Agreement and don't want to lose your job either.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: chr0naut

I like whistleblowers. It's just that this guy isn't/wasn't one.

Did you miss the memo on the 9 pages of side effects? Link. What happens to the death count when these conditions are also considered, expect a lot more 4. Who know just what else death and disability will result from such a novel technology?

Appears more like you are restricted by an Non Disclosure Agreement and don't want to lose your job either.

When whistleblowers go down 'official route', first stage in the protocol always involves the whistleblower having to sign an NDA, preventing them 'discussing' any reported issues until 'full investigation is completed'. Official whistleblower policies are designed to control the narrative.

Never works and that is why more clued up whistleblowers always go outside the systemic route to disclose.

For example, two cases in the UK, both involving individuals.
1 - the Letby case - concerned staff raised issues via official policy and were ignored = more babies died. The hospital were more concerned with their own public reputation than patient safety. The doctors who raised concerns were treated as pariahs. Issues only came to light when somebody reported to the police.

2 - a nurse was appalled that despite being perfect tissue match, little girl with Downs Syndrome was denied double transplant on perceived 'poor quality of life' grounds. Instead of going through official channels, nurse disclosed to the child's family. Public enquiry ensued with new 'clinical values only' protocols now in place. Had whistleblower not told the family, this attitude amongst decision makers is unlikely to have ever come to light and discrimination against people with Downs would've continued unabated. At enquiry and in press at the time, lots of attempts to discredit the whistleblower and deflect attention away from discriminatory practice in health-care.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tanstaafl
I like whistleblowers.

It's just that this guy isn't/wasn't one.

Seriously?

Not only did he release private data into the public arena,

That is kind of what whistleblowers do.

but he also messed with the data he released before doing so.

I must have missed that part - but please elaborate. Proof that he 'messed with it'? 'Messed with it' in what way?

UPDATE: McKernan's MEGA account restored, minus NZ Covid vax data

After nuking US-based scientist Kevin McKernan’s account following an injunction order from the New Zealand (NZ) Ministry of Health (MOH) earlier this week, file storage service MEGA has walked back its initially heavy-handed response...

In a ‘shoot first, ask questions later’ scenario, McKernan woke on Monday 4 December to find his entire MEGA account had been deleted, along with an estimated USD $200,000 worth of research data including medical genome sequencing and vaccine sequencing data. Some of the files related to court proceedings in multiple countries...

Steve Kirsch’s file hosting account with Wasabi was also disabled, on 2 December. At the time of writing, Kirsch’s account remained deactivated.

Injunctions are being used trying to shut down any public access to this data.

a reply to: kwaka

Cannot get vid off FB to here, showing a couple at the Invercargill cemetry in 2022 i think, backs up the data whistleblower shared, 90 odd fresh graves, i remember watching it live or soon after , way back then, now we see, due to new government data , why.

a reply to: AianawaQ1320

If you can download the video to your computer, you can reupload it to another video sharing platform like brighteon.com. They are one website that has stood strong against the censorship issues around covid. It does take a bit of time and effort to work it all out. The first time usually takes the longest.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: chr0naut

I like whistleblowers. It's just that this guy isn't/wasn't one.

Did you miss the memo on the 9 pages of side effects? Link. What happens to the death count when these conditions are also considered, expect a lot more 4. Who know just what else death and disability will result from such a novel technology?

Appears more like you are restricted by an Non Disclosure Agreement and don't want to lose your job either.

No, I am currently not working for any government body.

I also note that the excess deaths in New Zealand began to rise before 2020, before both COVID-19 and the immunizations were happening there. Could it be due perhaps to an ageing and slowly growing population that has had reasonably good healthcare historically?


(Source was macrotrends).

Also, these 'side-effects' are also symptoms of COVID-19, a disease which we have been unable to inhibit the spread of, in the same time frame that immunizations were rolled out.

originally posted by: AianawaQ1320
a reply to: chr0naut

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That meme is itself is a directive to accept a particular opinion by assuming that those who express contrary concerns are mindless. It offers no objective evidence for the conclusions drawn if you accept its nonsense.

I might point out that the majority of qualified and credentialled people, known thinkers and evaluators, are on the opposite side of this debate, and do not accept the conspiracist beliefs as valid.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tanstaafl
I like whistleblowers.

It's just that this guy isn't/wasn't one.

Seriously?

Not only did he release private data into the public arena,

That is kind of what whistleblowers do.

but he also messed with the data he released before doing so.

I must have missed that part - but please elaborate. Proof that he 'messed with it'? 'Messed with it' in what way?

He stripped it of data which might show that the areas where there were higher deaths were end-of-life-care hospices and retirement facilities or associated medical practices. And he then said (not even implied) that the only possible cause of death was the immunizations, which was untrue.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tanstaafl
He stripped it of data which might show that the areas where there were higher deaths were end-of-life-care hospices and retirement facilities or associated medical practices. And he then said (not even implied) that the only possible cause of death was the immunizations, which was untrue.

And your proof of this is... ?

a reply to: tanstaafl

Stones still rolls, Differing lies, some pointed out by Chro, leaving the narrative,plus more people getting involved from more countries, great movie

a reply to: AianawaQ1320

realitycheck.radio... FU2lxuj6HRCmlS72ZJQLLubJyspKPb1UEl4ptMeJSmSgS9j2doc

radio interview with Barry

a reply to: chr0naut

He stripped it of data which might show that the areas where there were higher deaths were end-of-life-care hospices and retirement facilities or associated medical practices. And he then said (not even implied) that the only possible cause of death was the immunizations, which was untrue.

Barry took the data to a statistician who calculated that the chance that all of these deaths was not due to the vax was 1 in 100 Billion. The government has found 4 cases so far, so it will reduce this statical calculation a little bit if not already accounted for? Not much with numbers like that.

It is standard that people will die, long term is fairly standard with some peeks during flu season. What Barry found was an unusually high rate around the time people got vaccinated. I have seen similar data before with the first day or two really bad, then the deaths tapering down after that.

Fauci threw a big spanner in this data by declaring that someone is not considered vaccinated until 2 weeks after vaccination. By doing this it clouded a lot of the data around acute reactions to the vax.

Barry found a way around this obfuscation by following the money. No one else in his government loop was interested in this information, so he had to reach out to find some that are.