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posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 05:30 AM
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When Trump was elected we were constantly told that Russia interfered in the election and that's the only reason he won. The Democrats and MSM pushed the idea of Russian collusion and a fake dossier for years. They played that card till the deck was worn out.

It seems like the Democrats are going to play that card again.

Read this interview with Hillary and you'll see the strategy. Everything they've accused the Russians or Trump of, is exactly what they've done or are currently doing and the majority of MSM is helping. The good thing about the internet is that they no longer have a stranglehold on information, so it's not quite as easy to fool the public and I think most folks no longer trust them.

They know Biden is not fit to serve and they don't have another candidate that has a real chance of winning.
The odds of re election are slimmer every time Joe opens his mouth, so they are trying to get ahead of the curve and find excuses for losing, grinding out the same 'ol story.

www.foxnews.com...

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Jeez.


"I don’t think, despite all of the deniers, there is any doubt that he interfered in our election, or that he has interfered in many ways in the internal affairs of other countries, funding political parties, funding political candidates, buying off government officials in different places," she began.




"Part of the reason he worked so hard against me is because he didn’t think that he wanted me in the White House. So we are where we are, in part of the challenge is to continue to explain to the American public that, you know, the kind of leader Putin is, this authoritarian dictator who literally kills his opposition, kills journalists, poisons people who disagree with him, invades other countries, interferes with our election, that is part of the alternative we have to reject this in this election, we have to reject authoritarianism, we have to reject a kind of creeping fascism almost, of people who are really ready to turn over their thinking, their votes to want to be dictators. We can’t allow that to proceed," she said.

Clinton said that if Putin had the chance, he would interfere in the 2024 elections.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 06:27 AM
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It's a continuation of Project Mockingbird. Of course there was no "Russian Collusion". I was trying to tell people that all along.
Remember how our biggest whistleblower was forced to flee to Russia to avoid getting offed for telling us our GVT was spying on all of us?
We ought to start thinking of "Russian Collusion" as "People saying some true stuff that happens to make people look bad."
The agencies literally tell the major medias what to say to get who they want "lawfully elected".

The TPTB absolutely DO have their viable candidate. They have 3 actually:
Biden, Trump, and Harris. All 3 talk big about changing things for the common man,
but are actually in cahoots with big money and the establishment.

The elites do this every election cycle: They create a false dichotomy between two candidates that they're secretly giving money to, and that way as long as one of those two wins, they're fine, and they own the left and the right leaning media, so they just have them tell the people "that one's unelectable... So is that one. That one won't have a chance. These are our two candidates."
Trump is literally in the billionaire class. He and Killary went to the same Galas, dude, and any animosity between Trump and Biden is purely for show.

The candidate everyone should be voting for is Kennedy.
Will Fox and CNN pull out all the stops to sway the election? OF COURSE. They do that every election.
I think rising Russia and China tensions and "needing to be a strong diplomat with ability to be a wartime president" is gonna be a huge talking point.
I will say if I had a gun to my head, and had to choose between either Trump or Biden in a summit with Putin, I'd say "Pull it".
Just disregard everything the media says until election day, and vote for Kennedy. He wants to break apart runaway black budget projects too. That means harming the deep state. Trump isn't gonna attempt that. If our votes don't count, then at least you tried something new.

Snowden is still stuck in Russia, and the mass surveillance is still going on, and they use our own tax dollars to rig elections through the media. Focus on the candidate who actually talks about THAT, instead of saying the same talking points as every other political candidate from the last 80 years.

"Drain the swamp" is nothing new. It's just "Bring real change to Washington" but worded differently, and they never actually do it. You guys HAVE TO stop falling for the con.


a reply to: DAVID64


edit on 25-9-2023 by TheValeyard because: clarification

edit on 25-9-2023 by TheValeyard because: clarification

edit on 25-9-2023 by TheValeyard because: clarification



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: TheValeyard

I have liked Kennedy for awhile now. I think a killer ticket would be Trump/Kennedy.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: TheValeyard

I have liked Kennedy for awhile now. I think a killer ticket would be Trump/Kennedy.


Me too but only because it's a way of giving the establishment the middle finger. In actuality, it would be difficult to get much done in 4 short years while at the same time constantly having to fight off attackers from all sides with made up charges and attempts to impeach them.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 07:52 AM
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Yeah ... the news this morning had Hillary saying that Russia collusion could happen again. I can't believe she's trying to pull that crap again. It was proven beyond any doubt that there was no Russian collusion. Her followers must be really dumb.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 07:54 AM
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Clinton has been talking about nothing else for the past 8 years.

I think it might bother her a little lol.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64




They know Biden is not fit to serve and they don't have another candidate that has a real chance of winning.


I'd bet the farm that they DO have a candidate lined up and whitewashed to slip in at the last moment, leaving no time for actually vetting them. Once they're chosen MSM will run interference by not reporting any negatives and focus on vilifying the GOP candidate.

Biden's EO to give all illegals ID cards allows to to then procure a drivers license, which in many states allows them to vote.

BAMN has the power of government and all its agencies behind them, along with some of the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet. They have the MSM, the youngest voters who have been brainwashed since kindergarten through college to see socialist ideals as the solution to all of our countries woes. They will have the Spanish speaking vote through targeted media and promises of all their dreams coming true, but only if they vote liberal.

As long as election integrity remains at zero there's a snowball's chance in he!! of reversing the status quo, IMO.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 08:20 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

They are. And trust me, they still worship her and mourn her defeat. I live in southern CA, and these women should not be allowed to vote. Im a women and I'd step aside if they didn't let them vote either. I trust MEN to do the right thing and make better decisions than these fluff brains.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: nugget1

Yes, the witch has much nerve to scream that the Russians will 'interfere' in our election again. (What a mushy term.) After everything the democrat party is doing right before our very eyes already to 'interfere' in our election.

They are ALREADY CHEATING.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I'm just over the whole political/voting thing.

I just can't understand the attitudes of American voters anymore. My cousin hates trump with a burning passion.. I ask her why she hates him so much and after listening to her ramble on for a half hour I still don't know what her problem is. Not once did she name a policy of Trump's that she disagreed with.

My friend is the exact opposite... loves trump with the same passion... can't give me a single reason other than Mericka!

I just can't stand the high emotion low information voters I'm surrounded by. To me it's like buying a car because it's a pretty color.. doesn't seem to matter it's a piece of crap.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

I can tell you why I support Trump or any other MAGA GOP candidate: the border

Its that simple. It was my reason nearly 8 years ago.

Its only gotten worse, and I've only gotten more MAGA. It's not about Trump. I dont like the man. But I will crawl over broken glass to vote for him, or any of the MAGA candidates.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

That's not something to be proud of.
Be more concerned about the possibility of someone hell bent on revenge possibly being elected to the highest position of power imaginable.
If you're more concerned about the border which is a very serious issue think about the fact the person you want in power will remove the border and just add another countries land into his.
If he does that you will be truly sorry and hated by everyone for making that gamble.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: TheValeyard

I have liked Kennedy for awhile now. I think a killer ticket would be Trump/Kennedy.


I would love to see this. Neither needs anybody’s money, both used to be darlings of the left, both hate the deep state. We’d definitely see the JFK records come to a head.
The Trump base plus the Kennedy base could be a huge force.
The only thing that would be more interesting would be if RFKJ tapped John Kennedy from Louisiana as his VP.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: stevieray

Certainly would be interesting I must say.
But like hell I would ever support either of them. Also Kennedy just had a close call so the dreadful legacy seems to actually be a thing. I don't think America would be able to cope with a tragedy at this time.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

What the heck are you talking about?

I hope Trump does something about the crooked DoJ et. all. under the democrats. You call it revenge. I call it defeating an enemy of America.

And yes, I'm quite proud.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

So you don't support Kennedy because the democrats will try to kill him?

WOW



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

That's not something to be proud of.
Be more concerned about the possibility of someone hell bent on revenge possibly being elected to the highest position of power imaginable.
If you're more concerned about the border which is a very serious issue think about the fact the person you want in power will remove the border and just add another countries land into his.
If he does that you will be truly sorry and hated by everyone for making that gamble.


Reading this it's clear you have no idea how our government works.

It's comical.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Hillary Clinton is nothing more than a sad caricature at this point.

How can you.tell if Hillary is lying?

If her lips.are moving.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

That's not something to be proud of.
Be more concerned about the possibility of someone hell bent on revenge possibly being elected to the highest position of power imaginable.
If you're more concerned about the border which is a very serious issue think about the fact the person you want in power will remove the border and just add another countries land into his.
If he does that you will be truly sorry and hated by everyone for making that gamble.



Your rant pretty much proved my point.



posted on Sep, 25 2023 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: TheValeyard

Guess you missed Kennedy's OP ED in the WSJ, but the DNC has effectively shut him out of the Primary process. He's toast. From what I'm hearing, they plan to parachute in Michele Obama or Gavin Newsome. The Biden candidacy is a "feint".



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