Outrage over South African Politician Julius Malema's Racist Song Kill the Boer

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A South African politician's racist comments have sparked a huge uproar online as well as in several parts of the world. Julius Malema, the leader of far-left South African political party Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF), called for killing the white farmers - with the chant "Kill the Boer" - while celebrating its 10th anniversary. The video of Mr Malema, dressed in his trademark red beret, appeared on social media and reignited debate about a controversial decades-old song that dates back to the struggle against apartheid.

What happened at the EFF rally?

Mr Malema, 42, addressed the jubilant workers of EFF at the rally on July 29. Party workers, in a show of force, packed the venue - a stadium in Johannesburg - with 90,000 supporters all dressed in the party's red colour to mark its 10th anniversary.

Mr Malema received rock-star treatment from jubilant fans who delivered the address amid a blast of red and gold confetti.

The remarks were made as South African parties position themselves for national elections in 2024.

For the record, the term Boers refers to the descendants of Dutch-speaking settlers at the Cape of Good Hope in the 18th century who were called Free Burghers. The word Boer in Dutch means farmer and by Kill the Boer the South African Politician implies Kill the White Farmer which can be taken further to imply Kill White People.

Dubul' ibhunu is a South African song that translates as Shoot the Boer or Kill the Boer and it had its roots on the apartheid era and the struggle of Black South Africans against the regime. However is has been criticised fiercely as a provocative and racist song.

The South African Politician Julius Malema is not new to this controversy and has bern forbidden to sing the song back in 2011 by the South Gauteng High. According to the court the song amounts to hate speech

In March 2010 South Gauteng High Court found that the phrase, spoken or sung, dubul’ibhunu ('shoot the boer') amounted to hate speech and was therefore not protected free speech as outlined in section 16 of the South African constitution.

In September 2011, the Equality Court at the South Gauteng High Court ruled that the song was discriminatory, harmful, undermined the dignity of Afrikaners, and thereby constituted hate speech; and that it "prima facie satisfies the crime of incitement to murder." The court ruled that Julius Malema, who was brought before the court for previously singing the song at rallies, was forbidden from singing it in the future. Following the ruling Malema changed the wording of the song to "Kiss the Boer" and sang that instead—however, it can be argued to still have the same psychological influence as the original, due to the well-known context for the altered lyrics. The following year, the ANC stated that they would not sing the song any more.

Take a note on how the left wing press and some historians have tried to defend the indefensible by arguing the song shouldn't be taken literally but completely ignoring the High Court Ruling back in 2011 that declared the song to be discriminatory, hateful, against the dignity of Afrikaners, therefore constitutes hate speech.

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Elon Musk commented on this story as he was born in South Africa and migrated to Canada when he was 18 years old. He was obviously very critical of this particular song

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Musk has spent the past week tweeting about a video of South African political party leader Julius Malema chanting “kill the Boer”: In one tweet Monday, Musk claimed the organizers were “openly pushing for genocide of white people in South Africa,” and asked President Cyril Ramaphosa, who belongs to a different party from Malema, “Why do you say nothing?”

Musk on Friday posted a screenshot of a New York Times article that cites historians who argue the song is not meant to be taken literally, slamming the outlet for “support[ing] calls for genocide”—in a surprising, if not sarcastic, turn Musk later tweeted the Times “does punch above its weight for a regional publication. Well done.”

Oh my, the MSM are just reporting it now. This murderous genocide has been going on since 1990. If you would care to look they have been killing White property owners (not just Boers) and their native workers since then. This "system " was adopted by Mugabe in Zimbabwe and look how that's worked out.

When the indigenous people of a land are systemically displaced and disenfranchised by colonizers and their descendants, can we really judge or demonize those indigenous people for being less than loving to those occupiers?

Selective Outrage: Being upset by a Struggle Song, but ignoring and justifying the inequity and inhumanity of the history that led to the creation of said song.

originally posted by: Sahabi
When the indigenous people of a land are systemically displaced and disenfranchised by colonizers and their descendants, can we really judge or demonize those indigenous people for being less than loving to those occupiers?

Selective Outrage: Being upset by a Struggle Song, but ignoring and justifying the inequity and inhumanity of the history that led to the creation of said song.

It isn't selective outrage.
Nobody has defended apartheid (at least here in these threads or the articles that I have linked).

Your comment is very unfortunate.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Oh my, the MSM are just reporting it now. This murderous genocide has been going on since 1990. If you would care to look they have been killing White property owners (not just Boers) and their native workers since then. This "system " was adopted by Mugabe in Zimbabwe and look how that's worked out.

Mugabe went after the white farmers to speed upland reform. For sure it was necessary long term and done in a bad way but it only targeted famers. Most white people in Zimbabwe today live very nice affluent lives in relative safety and aren't targeted the same way as in South Africa. Totally different to South Africa where there is a breakdown in law and order fueled by incompetent officialdom and possible ethnic cleansing planned behind the scenes.

And they will starve. They kill the farmers then steal anything of value and the farming stops. It's happening a lot more than reported.

a reply to: crayzeed

”murderous genocide has been going on since 1990”

Your dating is a little off. Europeans have pursued wide spread oppression and murder of the indigenous Africans systematically since at least the 1800’s.

originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: crayzeed

”murderous genocide has been going on since 1990”

Your dating is a little off. Europeans have pursued wide spread oppression and murder of the indigenous Africans systematically since at least the 1800’s.

I am sorry but this isn't the topic of this thread and nobody has shown support of the apartheid regime or any other forms of oppression of Africans by White colonialists.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Ignoring the literal history that gave rise to “Kill the Boer” and demonizing those who sing it is a direct and indirect support of apartheid.

Those who are “outraged” are acting like such sentiments arose out of a vacuum in which European colonizers have only acted humanely, compassionately, and charitably all this time.

This thread is reminding me of the people who reject the anguish and protests of native Hawaiians, Haitians, and Dominicans who live in poverty while multi-national entities occupy all of the best land for huge private and commercial economic gains.

Better yet, the people who are “outraged” by “Kill the Boer” are probably the same people who support Aldean’s “Try That in a Small Town”.

a reply to: mikell

Very true. If they are stupid enough to do that they deserve the lingering death awaiting them.

a reply to: Sahabi

Oh my such a great comparison. Gaslight here much? Or just your round about way of saying you support the killing of farmers?

originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: AlienBorg

Ignoring the literal history that gave rise to “Kill the Boer” and demonizing those who sing it is a direct and indirect support of apartheid.

Those who are “outraged” are acting like such sentiments arose out of a vacuum in which European colonizers have only acted humanely, compassionately, and charitably all this time.

This thread is reminding me of the people who reject the anguish and protests of native Hawaiians, Haitians, and Dominicans who live in poverty while multi-national entities occupy all of the best land for huge private and commercial economic gains.

Better yet, the people who are “outraged” by “Kill the Boer” are probably the same people who support Aldean’s “Try That in a Small Town”.

I am sorry but you ve got things wrong for once more. Nobody here has shown support of the apartheid regime. Kill the Boer is a song that has been condemned and according to the High Court amounts to hate speech. The High Court decided the song is discriminatory, harmful, and against the dignity of Afrikaners.

In March 2010 South Gauteng High Court found that the phrase, spoken or sung, dubul’ibhunu ('shoot the boer') amounted to hate speech and was therefore not protected free speech as outlined in section 16 of the South African constitution.

In September 2011, the Equality Court at the South Gauteng High Court ruled that the song was discriminatory, harmful, undermined the dignity of Afrikaners, and thereby constituted hate speech; and that it "prima facie satisfies the crime of incitement to murder." The court ruled that Julius Malema, who was brought before the court for previously singing the song at rallies, was forbidden from singing it in the future. Following the ruling Malema changed the wording of the song to "Kiss the Boer" and sang that instead—however, it can be argued to still have the same psychological influence as the original, due to the well-known context for the altered lyrics. The following year, the ANC stated that they would not sing the song any more.

Trying to defend the politician who has been forbidden by the court to sing the song back in 2011 by the High Court, is just a desperate attempt. Or making parallels to the multi-national companies that have occupied land of the indigenous people.

You've clearly confused your arguments.

originally posted by: boredhere74
a reply to: Sahabi

Oh my such a great comparison. Gaslight here much? Or just your round about way of saying you support the killing of farmers?

It must be the Gold Medal in gaslighting!

See how the left wing media are reporting ok the story and the lack of reporting which is obvious. If it was the other way around the media will go mad asking for the racist Politician to be cancelled, convicted, and end up in Jail.

Africans
Getting angry at past colonizers when they are currently letting the Continent be colonized by the Chinese. The Chinese aren't like the west...they aren't giving up what they took.

a reply to: AlienBorg

No surprise the US leftist MSM supports the song. They and their leftist cohort bear a thinly veiled hatred for whites. They termed attacks on whites by blacks in the Cincinnati riots "acceptable venting". It's probably only just a matter of time before the US goes the way of SA. The irony is that the typically spineless Anglo white population will just sit in dull wonder and watch the slaughter unfold while the Hispanics will retaliate 100 fold while the spineless cops will hide at donut shops.

Get your popcorn.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: AlienBorg

No surprise the US leftist MSM supports the song. They and their leftist cohort bear a thinly veiled hatred for whites. They termed attacks on whites by blacks in the Cincinnati riots "acceptable venting". It's probably only just a matter of time before the US goes the way of SA. The irony is that the typically spineless Anglo white population will just sit in dull wonder and watch the slaughter unfold while the Hispanics will retaliate 100 fold while the spineless cops will hide at donut shops.

Get your popcorn.

This ^

originally posted by: Sahabi
When the indigenous people of a land are systemically displaced and disenfranchised by colonizers and their descendants, can we really judge or demonize those indigenous people for being less than loving to those occupiers?

Selective Outrage: Being upset by a Struggle Song, but ignoring and justifying the inequity and inhumanity of the history that led to the creation of said song.

Most abuse always is always initiated by government, not the settlers, at least where I live in canada. Sure there is the odd racist settler but by and large people come to other lands because they are struggling in their original homelands and respect their new found opportunity.

Out of the three afrikaaners Ive met, two in canada and one when I was in South Africa, two of them could speak indidgenous languages which isnt something undertaken by people who hate another race.

The current whites in South Africa are right to be upset by this song because they are afraid of what has happened to farmers in the past. There is a video on youtube of white people living in homeless shanty towns because they cannot find work due to policy that requires blacks must be hired first, not the best person for the job. As usual, this is a political problem and not addressing it properly means that those with loose screws will take out their frustration on whites, many of whom didnt even grow up in the era of white privilege in South Africa.

Editing to add.. Im in no way saying there wasnt racism against blacks in the past, or even now, but it wasnt every white person. Its these blanket statement type thoughts that are dangerous as is a song with words Kill the Boer. Politicians know they are doing when they provoke hatred.

originally posted by: mikell
And they will starve. They kill the farmers then steal anything of value and the farming stops. It's happening a lot more than reported.

I've never understood the propensity to destroy ones environment. Watching that recent attack on that 7-Eleven by that mob of teens is just idiotic.

People destroy, break, steal and defile things and then wonder why there's no access to those things. It sucks the life out of struggling areas. Instead of building it up, people are actively trying to tear it down for seemingly no reason.

That area becomes desolate, uninhabitable, worthless and dodgy asf. I thought "infrastructure" funding was passed? Was that only monetary and not structural?

I just don't get the wanton destruction and the lack of consideration for your environment. WTF is going on with our teenagers??? What are their kids going to be like???😳

There's a national, cultural crisis going on that's not being addressed but will be soon enough. It's spiraling out of control. Any ideas on how to reel it in?

a reply to: EternalShadow

From what I've seen many on the 'left' /'liberal' side are narcissists. They will vicitimize themselves and blame everyone around them but themselves. They enjoy tearing down others to feel better about themselves. They love destroying what others have build/worked hard for as they enjoy the reactions.
These people are psychopaths. Understandly they tend to associate with other psychopaths (the 'democratic' party).

If you look at those on the 'right'/libertarian side we try to make others feel better about themselves , try to help people, offer support, work hard to build something , have goals etc. Off course narcissists can be 'right' wing also , but from what I've seen looking at the rioters and loony 'lefties' , guaranteed every one of those is a narc.