Valhalla Death Cult Fantasists In Ukraine Influenced By Video Games

a reply to: RickyD

I can't wait to hear their stories when they ...excuse me... If they ever return.

They will be stories of war , we've heard them before do we need to hear them again.

a reply to: RickyD

You seem totally unwilling to even consider any evidence from any alleged 'Western' source.
Yet you seem to swallow unquestioningly any story or evidence provided by Russian sources.

You seem incapable of considering anything other than the pro-Russian narrative and perspective.

That speaks absolute volumes to anyone who is trying to make any sense of this senseless invasion and subsequent death and destruction.

Do we really care why these poor dumb bastards are excited to put their lives at risk, as long as they make the other poor dumb bastards die first?

originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: Freeborn

I'm sure the Russian Neo-Nazi militia's who are fighting side by side the regular Russian conscripts will treat them with the care and compassion Russian armed forces are noted for.

In this clown world I'm not quite sure "neo-nazi" means what you think it means. This is an excerpt from a ridiculous Yahoo article about a neighborhood flag dispute...

This act left her feeling uneasy as the new, obscure red and yellow flag is associated with the Socialist Workers Party of Russia, a far-right hate group.

"Neo-Nazism comprises the post–World War II militant, social, and political movements that seek to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and white supremacy, attack racial and ethnic minorities (which include antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state."
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and they exist all over the world. some do not even know that they carry and spread nazi ideas. the question is: why in god's name are there still nazis today? paradoxically, very common in countries that fight against the nazis in ww2.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Kester

No doubt some are but many who have joined the fight are former soldiers who want to use their training to help out the underdog in this conflict , those who's decision was influenced by Call of Duty will soon find there is no respawn.

It's estimated there are hundreds of former British soldiers who have made the decision to go fight for the cause of freedom , personally I salute them.

These are the same group..

Any soldier that thinks Afghanistan and Iraq, or any other one sided skirmish against underperforming and underarmed, outgunned, goat herders had no idea what real war is like.

Iraqi soldiers without air support, all comms compromised, running away with hands up, etc..


This will be closer to the future of war..

Where the OTHER SIDE.. also has tanks, 🛰️, drones, 🔐 communications, 💣 jets, fighter jets, ..

Much different optics..and reality..


A heavyweight strutting around after picking on a featherweight one handed opponent, as if there was any honor in it..

Going into another fight, all the while thinking they are Rambo, getting off of feeling tough in the past,. And now.. faced with a punch back in the face..

Compared to the admiring fans of 2006 Cheering on those "brave defenders of freedom" invading a foreign land,...

Not so tough now.. huh..

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Flatcoat

So, are you assuming for some reason that I don't know what a Neo-Nazi is?

Don’t they drive trucks?

Is there a new definition now?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RickyD

You seem totally unwilling to even consider any evidence from any alleged 'Western' source.
Yet you seem to swallow unquestioningly any story or evidence provided by Russian sources.

You seem incapable of considering anything other than the pro-Russian narrative and perspective.

That speaks absolute volumes to anyone who is trying to make any sense of this senseless invasion and subsequent death and destruction.

He literally just said that there was VICE NEWS pieces done in 2016-2018. Literally 3-4 posts before you posted, is VICE NEWS not Western enough for you?

I find these Mercs to be total oxymorons, when they talk to reporters, like in the article and say things like "we are here to protect freedom".

The Ukrainian government was doing the complete opposite of "freedom" to millions and millions of Ukrainians in the east. As soon as the new puppet government was installed they automatically started making new laws and rules that were all anti Russian. Russian was no longer a 2nd language. They didn't want people speaking Russian in public no more, they didn't want the children learning Russian in school or we taught school in the Russian language no more. All street signs, names, businesses, parks could no longer have anything to do with Russian culture or in the Russian language, even in towns and villages were 100% of the people spoke Russian and had been speaking Russian there for 100s of years.

Sounds like the Ukrainian government really cared about freedom to these people.

The Ukrainian President Poroshenko literally said "our kids (kids in western Ukraine) will go to school, the kids in the Donbass can go hide in bomb shelters"

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

I don't know... But seeing the recent events, it appears to me, that they were on to something 👍

a reply to: Freeborn

Why won't Zelenski exchange POWs with Russia?

The one time they did the POWS came out showing scars and evidence of torture. No such thing from Ukraine POWs returned.

The only offer Zelensky has made was to exchange political prisoners for Russian-held POWs.

Lots of videos of POWs coming from Russia. Ones that were returned and the ones they are holding.

Really weird how Ukraine doesn't have much of that. There was the knee capping, pictures and videos of killed Russians with their hands tied behind their back or dead on the ground with their hands up.

Here is just a quick search with the term POW in English. Not even a quarter of those listed.

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Maybe you wrote about how Russia treats prisoners you were referring back to when Ukraine was part of USSR. Wouldn't that be Ironic?

a reply to: Kester

there are fighters who arrived on the ground that “literally think it's like a video game."

No doubt from a Social Media Platform who are supposedly supporting the current thing?

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

see there's a difference between American media and Russian media, Russian media is state controlled and has to support the interests of the Russian state, American media doesn't have to kiss the American governments ass and has no motivation to do so, their only interest is whether a story is interesting enough to make a profit, meaning a tendency to show the reality, where they have no trouble exposing American war crimes, its just russias turn to be exposed.


to imply American media is biased towards American interests is silly and ignores the last 18 years of constant criticisms and exposing America's every wrong in iraq and afghanistan whenever they get the chance, only fox acted like America could do no wrong but that isn't the case anymore.

originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Flatcoat

So, are you assuming for some reason that I don't know what a Neo-Nazi is?

I'm saying that apparently, according to the copious amounts of propaganda being thrown about by both sides, we have russian neo-nazis fighting ukranian neo-nazis .....I'm just waiting for the neo-nazi wing of the IDF to join the fray. Everyone's a "neo-nazi".

I think that means that there are negligible numbers of Nazis or neo nazis on either side.
It’s an insult, or an excuse for war.

However, seeing Teeny Putini, kidnap and resettle people into a Russian territory, for reeducation . Kinda shows who has the similar mentality to the genocide that occurred in
Germany, back in the 30’s and 40’s.
It’s a form of genocide, and shorty Mcputin will be the worlds
Pariah until he passes from his cancer.

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

see there's a difference between American media and Russian media, Russian media is state controlled and has to support the interests of the Russian state, American media doesn't have to kiss the American governments ass and has no motivation to do so, their only interest is whether a story is interesting enough to make a profit, meaning a tendency to show the reality, where they have no trouble exposing American war crimes, its just russias turn to be exposed.

That's worse than naive for you to think that. Remember what happened to that Army guy who leaked the classified Iraq videos? The MSM wouldn't touch that, nor would they discuss the American war crimes he exposed. The US media can only deviate with permission from their project mockingbird handlers.

Both are state controlled, with some differences.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

no not really, its a rational view that discards irrational assumptions based on fear, paranoia and sensationalism, you refuse to look at the objective reality, the reality being that humans and our society is boring and practical, where anything that requires too much effort and cost likely won't be done, like a corporation wasting money for the interests of government, tell me how that's rational in a capitalist nation of selfish greedy people, where profit is everything. Americans in general have no problem selling out our own government if money is involved and they do all the time, russia invading ukraine is just another interesting story that's making them a nice profit.

a reply to: namehere

The nicest and most polite response I can craft for someone that truly thinks that American media is free of government control, is that they have either been living in parallel plane of existence their entire lives (thus making them blissfully unaware of Operation Mockingbird and subsequent programs to indoctrinate the masses using MSM), OR, they are running some type of meta-propaganda deal ("There's no such thing as U.S. government propaganda in MSM, that's just a ........cOnSpiRaCy Theory") and they are in on the game themselves.

As far as your mythology about who did and didn't bang on the Iraq war drums in the U.S. media.

You sure it was only Fox?

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Nobody from the New York Times joined in?

CNN didn't join in?

I think Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi pretty much nails the culprits to the wall, and whether or not the liberals want to admit it, many of their own, and particularly the ones in the MSM were shoulder to shoulder with the hawks from the right in conjuring up the Iraq War:

The Washington Post and New York Times were key editorial-page drivers of the conflict; MSNBC unhired Phil Donahue and Jesse Ventura over their war skepticism; CNN flooded the airwaves with generals and ex-Pentagon stoolies, and broadcast outlets ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS stacked the deck even worse: In a two-week period before the invasion, the networks had just one American guest out of 267 who questioned the war, according to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting.

So I don't buy that revisionist history, sorry.

The difference between the Russians and U.S., when it comes to state-controlled media, is that we have the ILLUSION of a free press.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: gortex

I can't wait to hear their stories when they ...excuse me... If they ever return. I bet they will have some amazing tales of adventures with their nationalist/nazi war buddies. Something tells me most of those guys are really wishing they hadn't and its was too late after they signed in for the duration.

like the ISIS brides.

originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Flatcoat

So, are you assuming for some reason that I don't know what a Neo-Nazi is?

I'm saying that apparently, according to the copious amounts of propaganda being thrown about by both sides, we have russian neo-nazis fighting ukranian neo-nazis .....I'm just waiting for the neo-nazi wing of the IDF to join the fray. Everyone's a "neo-nazi".

the OG nazis are staying home.

a reply to: Kester

I agree that games can be used to desensitize people, Children are often too easily exposed to games and the adult rating does nothing to stop it.

I have seen in my lifetime in England from the 1970's to today Children go from being ordinary and most little boy's having pen knives for carving wood, marking there names in trees etc to kids of today stabbing one another as if it is almost normal to do so, stabbing simple did not happen back then (70's, 80's and even into the early 90's) any where near as often as it does today, Gun crime was virtually none existent in the UK as well, part of it is the migration into our nation but the greater part by far is the fall in moral standards, violence in the media including computer games were it is a feature to have realistic graphics of human mutilation such as so called GIBBING of enemy characters.

And you know what Games don't have to be KILL KILL KILL they can be far more fun as simple puzzles, platformers even first person ones and exploration.

Sadly we are in a world were MONEY and making money is all that matters, morality can go take a flying leap as far as the corporations responsible for some of this filth are concerned.

I mean I AM a gamer and would be lying if I said I had not played some of them but if some of those games had been movies even today they would be censored as far too violent, now in my case as an adult my brain is fully formed, a child exposed to this on the other hand is still developing and it is feeding them false sensory input that is creating a false sense of reward and punishment that promotes violent psychological reactions and is therefore very dangerous, I would even go so far as to suggest that unless society can get on top of this problem and stop listening to gaming addicts defending there drug it should then be far more heavily regulated and if need be banned altogether however impossible that would be to achieve but only the really violent and nasty stuff, age rating simply does not work as most parents have no idea what there kid's are playing and most games retailers will sell without regard to the age rating system anyway.

a reply to: LastFirst

The same technique is used by people who arrange dog fights. Smaller dogs are thrown to the fighting dogs out of sight of the paying audience. The fighting dogs both easily kill the smaller dogs. The fighting dogs are then put together, eager and confident after an easy kill. This makes the fight fiercer and more entertaining for the audience. This war is an arranged spectacle for an audience.