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Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
I just said: Holy s#@!
That's awesome! how come the Japanese were the only ones with such inovative subs?
Originally posted by longbow
Because the others were not idiots? They should use their resources for AIP propulsion (germans had one a at the end of WWII). I wonder how much damage can 3 planes make? And they will probably never have 2nd oportunity.
Besides there were also many crazy western projects like "Hababuk" - huge carrier from ice. Thanks God, they were cancelled.
[edit on 30-3-2005 by longbow]
Originally posted by SIRR1
The objective of the Japanese Sub bombers was to hit the canal gates and either jam the locks to prevent operation or to blow the gates out of the water and drain the canal.
Sounds like a good plan, if they could have pulled it off it might have changed the war in the Pacific.
Hmmm, I guess we dont realize how close we were to speaking Japanese!
Originally posted by ufo3
This would be an excellent idea for the USN to implement now, just think of the advantages of having a sub aircraft carrier! With modern tech even full size aircraft lifts could be built into the design, it could have the same capacity as a normal carrier and the stealth of a sub. I admit that the maintenance of the flight deck could be a nightmare with constant submerrsion in saltwater but its still doable, which makes me wonder?
Originally posted by longbow
How much bombing took it only to damage german water dams during WWII?
The IJN submarine I-400 is among the most intriguing subs of World War II. Not only was it the largest submarine at 394' long and displaying 5,220 tons, the I-400 series also featured three advanced Aichi M6A1 Seiran fighter bomber aircraft, eight torpedo tubes, and enough conventional weaponry to qualify as a light destroyer. Then there is the I-400's distinctive appearance - bulging aircraft hanger bays protruding from the huge superstructure, and the offset conning tower. In addition there was a folding deck crane, snorkel rig, and radar. All in all the I-400 is a fascinating subject and unique subject.
Originally posted by longbow
Originally posted by ufo3
This would be an excellent idea for the USN to implement now, just think of the advantages of having a sub aircraft carrier! With modern tech even full size aircraft lifts could be built into the design, it could have the same capacity as a normal carrier and the stealth of a sub. I admit that the maintenance of the flight deck could be a nightmare with constant submerrsion in saltwater but its still doable, which makes me wonder?
It would be bad idea, because carrier needs to send and recieve planes constatly, that means it cannot submerge. Besides, once you send planes
the stealth is gone, and enemy will drop every torpedo in inventory in your are. And you are submerged and have no radar... - BIG problem.
Originally posted by ufo3
Originally posted by longbow
Originally posted by ufo3
This would be an excellent idea for the USN to implement now, just think of the advantages of having a sub aircraft carrier! With modern tech even full size aircraft lifts could be built into the design, it could have the same capacity as a normal carrier and the stealth of a sub. I admit that the maintenance of the flight deck could be a nightmare with constant submerrsion in saltwater but its still doable, which makes me wonder?
It would be bad idea, because carrier needs to send and recieve planes constatly, that means it cannot submerge. Besides, once you send planes
the stealth is gone, and enemy will drop every torpedo in inventory in your are. And you are submerged and have no radar... - BIG problem.
Aircraft carriers can be tracked by satellite and radar fairly easily because they are so big. I would have thought it obvious that you cannot launch planes then submerge lol. Instead u gain a surprise element, once u have popped up off of the coast of some country u want to bomb they have a much more limited time to respond than if they had been watching your fleet manouver into position with satellites. Thats where the advantage is.
Originally posted by ufo3
Aircraft carriers can be tracked by satellite and radar fairly easily because they are so big. I would have thought it obvious that you cannot launch planes then submerge lol. Instead u gain a surprise element, once u have popped up off of the coast of some country u want to bomb they have a much more limited time to respond than if they had been watching your fleet manouver into position with satellites. Thats where the advantage is.