Truth Comes Out; Bush Admin in TROUBLE

Wolfowitz Committee Instructed White House To Use Iraq/Uranium Ref In Pres Speech

07/16/03: (Information Clearing House) WASHINGTON, D.C--A Pentagon committee led by Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, advised President Bush to include a reference in his January State of the Union address about Iraq trying to purchase 500 tons of uranium from Niger to bolster the case for war in Iraq, despite the fact that the CIA warned Wolfowitz�s committee that the information was unreliable, according to a CIA intelligence official and four members of the Senate�s intelligence committee who have been investigating the issue.

The Senators and the CIA official said they could be forced out of government and brought up on criminal charges for leaking the information to this reporter and as a result requested anonymity. The Senators said they plan to question CIA Director George Tenet Wednesday morning in a closed-door hearing to find out whether Wolfowitz and members of a committee he headed misled Bush and if the President knew about the erroneous information prior to his State of the Union address.

Spokespeople for Wolfowitz and Tenet vehemently denied the accusations. Dan Bartlett, the White House communications director, would not return repeated calls for comment.

The revelations by the CIA official and the senators, if true, would prove that Tenet, who last week said he erred by allowing the uranium reference to be included in the State of the Union address, took the blame for an intelligence failure that he was not responsible for. The lawmakers said it could also lead to a widespread probe of prewar intelligence.

At issue is a secret committee set up in 2001 by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called the Office of Special Plans, which was headed by Wolfowitz, Abrum Shulsky and Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, to probe allegations links between Iraq and the terrorist organization al-Qaeda and whether the country was stockpiling a cache of weapons of mass destruction. The Special Plans committee disbanded in March after the start of the war in Iraq. ...

The Office of Special Plans, according to the CIA official and the senators, routinely provided Bush, Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney and National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice with questionable intelligence information on the Iraqi threat, much of which was included in various speeches by Bush and Cheney and some of which was called into question by the CIA.

Patrick Lang, a former director of Middle East analysis at the Defense Intelligence Agency, said in an interview with the New Yorker magazine in May that the Office of Special Plans �started picking out things that supported their thesis and stringing them into arguments that they could use with the President. It�s not intelligence. It�s political propaganda.�

informationclearinghouse.info...

The Hens have finally come home to roost.



[Edited on 17-7-2003 by Colonel]

www.cnn.com...

Any Rebulican here who still does not believe that their leaders lied through their teeth are in serious denial. They are LIARS. Impeach, get them out.

This is not an attack of Republican ideals, this is an attack on your lying leaders. Please grasp this concept before the usual " your a liberal, commie, democrat blah blah blah" kicks in. Even you yourselves must wish for better leaders than this bunch of idiotic, lying murderers.

Sorry John, but it does not matter weather one is republican or democrat, all leaders are corrupt weather we like to accept it or not..mainstream leaders such as the democrat party and the republican party are all run by corruption of greed, abuse of power, and not to mention they do not make the decisions. We cannot blame the the scapegoats such as bush, clinton, or bin laden --saddam...same thing..they are all part of a greater whole of schme that we mere humans do not see...kind of like the workings of the universe you might..hah!

I would not be surrprised if the so called "weapons of mass destruction" turn up just before the 2004 elections or better yet that we go to war with korea before than...its just an excuse for bush to stay in the govt another 4 yrs. another 4 yrs of war, turmoil, conspiracy, and poverty brought on by the evils of govt not people...all govts not just US..theres britain..russia..china..and list goes on forever..

Conslusion: All government is corrupt
Solution: we must overthrow the government, it does ot matter...chaos can be taken care of.

Sirius

here is article you might be interested in.

www.deoxy.org...

An anarchist eh Sirius? I'm afraid it's human nature to form a social hierarchy though. Even if government were overthrown, another one would form after a while. There would be those on the bottom and those on the top. Hopeless creatures humans are....

Anyway, I'm sure that if this investigation starts going anywhere, there'll be another war or something to shift attention away from it. Money talks and certain people have alot of money...

Couldn't agree with you more Sirius, I don't know why you thought different. We are in complete agreement on what the people should do next, they're just to scared to change this way of life and to lazy to start over again to fight.

My post was not to you but to the many posters who seem to get very angry the moment you even remotely criticise the Bush Administration. It's like trying to tell a child Santa doesn't exist. I feel sorry for them as they are in complete denial about where they are. They believe in something which is a lie and are completely brainwashed, there is no room for debate with them.

You know who you are.

[Edited on 17-7-2003 by John Nada]

[Edited on 17-7-2003 by John Nada]

Have nt the Bush Admin always been in trouble??

The White House has completely reversed there ideals concerning everything. Before war we knew where the weapons where and how much they had.

After war we are sure theres some evidence somewhere that they had something. Thats a direct quote i think.

How much deceipt can the average person ignore before the step up and say, this is not what out country is about.

The Republicans at this site are very quiet at the moment. I guess that's what happens when you use their insults and answers before they do.(which has been programmed in their head as propaganda)

I've already covered every corner of the case, nothing new has been offered from the democratic side of the aisle here at ATS. Bush blaa blaa... some here are obsessed and I feel certain it is because for once they feel they may have something they can make into a case. The rest of us that are not consumed with ill will are waiting to see if there is a case with which to go forward.

Originally posted by drunk
Have nt the Bush Admin always been in trouble??

Yes, of course, but not as much as the trouble they cause for others in the corrupt, deceitful, lethal path they have chosen.

I like that TC fights to the bitter end with dogged determination. He 'covers every angle' about as well as the Bush administration covers the holes in their story.

Yes, I would admit to a certain small level of obession with getting rid of this corrupt administration, and I'm no Democrat or Republican. It's a fight that has to happen to be rid of (as Colonel has elsewhere described it) a very bad cancer.

There are 100s of things that point to evidence of corruption, complicity and criminality that don't need any embellishment to build a case. How long it takes to get rid of the Bush cancer comes down to how corrupt the American system has been allowed to become.

[Edited on 21-7-2003 by MaskedAvatar]

Bush Budget Disaster Deepens


President Bush's record-breaking budget deficit for 2003 will be 50 percent higher than administration officials originally projected, growing from $300 billion to $455 billion, thanks to Bush's budget mismanagement.

The $455 billion deficit for fiscal year 2003 will be the largest annual deficit ever.

Working families are paying the price for Bush's failed tax policies. Unemployment continues to grow, reaching a nine-year high of 6.4 percent in June with 30,000 jobs lost last month alone. The total number of unemployed Americans is now at 9.4 million, an increase of 3.4 million since Bush took office.

State and local governments are bearing the brunt of the cost of the Bush tax scheme. With tax revenue dropping, states -- most of which are required to balance their budgets every year -- have been forced to slash vital services including education programs, health care services, and first responder funding for fire and police.

States have also been forced to raise taxes, meaning many of the working families who have seen little or no benefit from the Bush tax cut for the rich have actually seen their tax burden increase dramatically.

Democrats proposed a genuine economic stimulus plan that would have included targeted tax cuts and help to states, which are facing their worst fiscal crisis since World War II. But President Bush and the Republicans in Congress have consistently exploited America's economic problems to pass more big tax giveaways for the wealthiest sliver of Americans.
[Washington Post, 7/15/03]

How bout we just start one big back side slapping democratic self appreciating post,

that way you could store all this crap on one thread and be done with it.

perhaps call it the colonel's post zone.


as far as lying who could it be???
who would have lied in office...



could it be....
CLINTON?!?!

In fact, the NIE provided in October said that Saddam Hussein is less a threat as a leader of Iraq than after being deposed, making a case against the invasion of Iraq.

Has the 'president' acted against national security interests ?

www.abovetopsecret.com...


[Edited on 21-7-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]

Well lets see,

It appears to me that all is going according to plan. Americans are ticked about 911 and hate Islam and all it represents, the American economy is in a ever deepening hell hole, while the European Union and the Euro grow, Saddam has us in the quagmire he wanted us in from the begining, Osama and his CIA buddies from from the war with the Russians are sipping tea and smoking hash coming up with act two, [ I suggest you read Tea with Terrorists available at Amazon], North Korea is lobing shells at the South cause they know more than half our standing Army is worn out and depressed and a part of that is pregnant, we can't send the other half cause our whole society is based on the military industrial complex rather than commerece, and if we sent them we couldn't make any more weapons. Then the Texans would have to hold off the Mexicans while the Alaskans tried to beat back the Sino Soviets stereaming in across the Bering Straight with bear guns and .22's and float planes.
While the Canadians smoke pot and celebrate at gay marriages!!!!!
I'm dying of laughter!!!!!!!!!!!
What New World Order??????????????

Shrub, this is another fine mess you've gotten us into,
just like in High School. Better call your daddy.

Somebody HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TUT

Tut

I think you just extended what Colonel started, "the Bush admin is in trouble", more than anything else I have read of late.

Don't forget, though, that the 'president' has enormous family problems that have not hit home just yet. Spare a thought for the guy, will you?

J/K on sparing a thought for the guy.

You think this is bad you ought to read the post at the end of "Who Killed JFK" , sloopy little cabinet he has there!!!!!

Well I'm all for Bush, and I do believe he lied.

But he had to.

The American people are so stupid, do you really think we'd have stopped the mass murders of Saddam out of "niceness"?

No...you have to motivate the idiots...tell them that Saddam is going to break all their toys and eat all their cupcakes, and then they'll get rid of Saddam.

It was a worthy manipulation, no more mass graves need be filled, because of the few graves we've dug.

Originally posted by Fury
How bout we just start one big back side slapping democratic self appreciating post,

that way you could store all this crap on one thread and be done with it.

perhaps call it the colonel's post zone.

I could go for that.