Get immunized, TPH says, as almost 99% of those hospitalized with COVID-19 not fully vaccinated

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: chr0naut

The vaccines have proven very safe

By whom? Pfizer themselves? do these mRNA vaxs have a vaccine covid safety commission panel? Bill Gates was agaisnt Trump's idea of having an open and transparent commission panel?

Yes, but apparently Trump didn't know that they already had multiple vaccine safety panels, in multiple countries, across the world, and have had so for a long time.

Generally, there has been testing of immunizations and vaccinations from way before Western science was codified. Emperor Fu-Lin of China in 1661, wrote of his safety testing and success of immunizing against Smallpox, which killed his father.

To quote Fu-lin, “The method of inoculation having been brought to light during my reign, I had it used upon you, my sons and daughters, and my descendants, and you all passed through the smallpox in the happiest possible manner…. In the beginning, when I had it tested on one or two people, some old women taxed me with extravagance, and spoke very strongly against inoculation. The courage which I summoned up to insist on its practice has saved the lives and health of millions of men. This is an extremely important thing, of which I am very proud.”

Normal vaccine producing takes up to 5 to 15 years not made in months.

So the more traditionally made flu vax comes years too late?

Its strange how these mRNA vaxs are going to be FDA approved as early by Sep even though it takes years.

How strange that you have so little understanding of modern science and medicine, and think that we should have to suffer for years before we can take any sort of action against common pathogens.

4,703,529,822 doses of vaccine have been administered to date.

If A country somewhere cant hide or lie about its covid data why cant the west do the same about its own numbers? you know Russia could have done its neighbors.

Here's an idea. Perhaps the western countries aren't lying about COVID-19, and the ones lying are the relatively anonymous nobodies who post their ill-informed opinions on social media?

The side effects of the mRNA like heart inflammations and BCs arent something to take lightly.

The AstraZeneca vaccine, that was initially flagged as a possible (and as yet unproven) risk of blood clots, is not an mRNA vaccine. It contains a weakened form of simian cold virus, similar to other older types of inactivated virus type viral vector vaccinations.

a reply to: chr0naut

Sorry I missed your point. Spanish flu killed a ton more people than Covid. And....???

a reply to: HawkEyi

I have seen 2 restaurants in Little Rock, in the last 2 hours, telling to get vaxxed so you can come eat with them.........

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: chr0naut

Sorry I missed your point. Spanish flu killed a ton more people than Covid. And....???

I thought it was your point. Several times you seem to be suggesting that because something is deadlier, that COVID-19 isn't deadly.

Despite it's lower CFR, COVID-19 has killed 4 million plus in two years, worldwide. 1/2 a million plus in the US alone.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: vonclod
In BC, they just said, current infections are 78% unvaxxed, 17% one shot, and the rest fully vaxxed.

Believe it, don't believe it, don't care much, just thought I'd add to this, it's the most I've heard anything broken down.

Sounds about right.

As more and more people get vaccinated, though, the percentage of vaccinated that are hospitalized, or die, will rise.

If everyone was vaccinated, the few who still got sick from COVID-19 anyway, would be 100% vaccinated. This is because the efficacy of the vaccines isn't perfect, and less so with new strains.

Of course, if everyone was vaccinated, very few would get any COVID-19 disease, and even fewer would pass it on.

Makes sense to me.

a reply to: carewemust

He certainly did, I definitely remember that, but it was quickly refuted/debunked, so who doesn't know that about the vaccine.

It's the anti vaxxers who want to silence the fact that vaccinated people who catch Covid won't have strong symptoms. So the anti-vaxxers exploit breakthrough cases to further their agenda just like pro-vaxxers exploit really sick anti-vaxxers with Covid in the news.

As a Scientist I am telling you they are lying to you about all of this. You guys want to know what is killing people are the lies about the vaccine, the lies about the CV "confirmed cases" and the lies they told you about the masks.


Enough believing sources who lied to me. When will you guys quit being duped I don't know? The fact that flu was not recorded is your clue but several of you refuse to accept that FACT. Why?

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: vonclod
In BC, they just said, current infections are 78% unvaxxed, 17% one shot, and the rest fully vaxxed.

Believe it, don't believe it, don't care much, just thought I'd add to this, it's the most I've heard anything broken down.

Sounds about right.

As more and more people get vaccinated, though, the percentage of vaccinated that are hospitalized, or die, will rise.

If everyone was vaccinated, the few who still got sick from COVID-19 anyway, would be 100% vaccinated. This is because the efficacy of the vaccines isn't perfect, and less so with new strains.

Of course, if everyone was vaccinated, very few would get any COVID-19 disease, and even fewer would pass it on.

Makes sense to me.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: chr0naut

Sorry I missed your point. Spanish flu killed a ton more people than Covid. And....???

I thought it was your point. Several times you seem to be suggesting that because something is deadlier, that COVID-19 isn't deadly.

Despite it's lower CFR, COVID-19 has killed 4 million plus in two years, worldwide. 1/2 a million plus in the US alone.

Sure, if you believe the numbers are accurate.

From what our U.S. CDC Director told Congress last year, the Covid-19 Death Toll is comprised of NON-Covid19 deaths as well.

I believe HIM, because an internal enemy of America (our MSM) ignored his profound admission.

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: carewemust

He certainly did, I definitely remember that, but it was quickly refuted/debunked, so who doesn't know that about the vaccine.

It's the anti vaxxers who want to silence the fact that vaccinated people who catch Covid won't have strong symptoms. So the anti-vaxxers exploit breakthrough cases to further their agenda just like pro-vaxxers exploit really sick anti-vaxxers with Covid in the news.

Like I told a bunch of people (mostly relatives) who insisted on wearing masks all the time at a family funeral, it's OK if they are afraid of viruses all of a sudden. The more people are fearful, the shorter the lines in the stores, on the highways, etc.. Just leave ME alone.

a reply to: Justoneman

As a Scientist I am telling you they are lying to you about all of this. You guys want to know what is killing people are the lies about the vaccine, the lies about the CV "confirmed cases" and the lies they told you about the masks.


Enough believing sources who lied to me. When will you guys quit being duped I don't know? The fact that flu was not recorded is your clue but several of you refuse to accept that FACT. Why?

Dude, I'm not lighting my hair on fire, I have, and still question plenty, I feel like it's being oversold right now..time will tell. As for the flu, they stopped testing for the flu, it never left. I also think this came from the lab, was engineered. Not that it, really changes the problem

a reply to: HawkEyi

Yeah in some countries, counties, cities the hospitalisation rates are majority double vaxxed. In one hospital in Jerusalem 95% of those admitted have had both jabs. There's many instances where nurses, healthcare workers & other are whistleblowing & trying to tell the world the truth. Don't believe a word you see in the mainstream dribble.

a reply to: HawkEyi

Pretty much anything that comes out of the legacy lame stream media is a lie, just like our politicians, it's all they know how to do, lie. We don't have news anymore or really weather. We have the the joint propaganda channels of covid doom porn and climate change doom porn. So just take the opposite of what they say.

"99% of those hospitalized with covid are vaccinated or are suffering from vaccine side effects."

That is likely closer to the truth.

Cheers - Dave

Ok. Let's say it is true that the majority getting sick are not vaxxed. So what. Those people chose to not be vaxxed and know the risks. Sick people keep a crap load of people employed. Without sick people, there is no need for nurses and doctors, etc.

"oh but but but, you vaxxed people are putting others at risk". No. Because those others can get vaxxed and be safe, right? "but but but......" There are no buts.

They push the vaxxine for money, power and control. Not to help people. 'They' don't give a crap about people.

And if people are truly afraid the unvaxxed may get them sick - then the afraid can put on full PPE or hazmat suits when they leave their safe places. But they never do, do they? Because it is not about that.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: chr0naut

Sorry I missed your point. Spanish flu killed a ton more people than Covid. And....???

I thought it was your point. Several times you seem to be suggesting that because something is deadlier, that COVID-19 isn't deadly.

Despite it's lower CFR, COVID-19 has killed 4 million plus in two years, worldwide. 1/2 a million plus in the US alone.

4 million people IF the numbers are accurate.

Also you say the vaxine has been proven to be safe?
(yes over 1 year, IF the numbers are accurate)

So according to your opinion that the vax is safe now, does that mean that there will be no long term side effects??? Because that's what you're implying by saying they are safe.

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Ill ask you the same as Phage, zombie and OtherSideOfTheCoin one of the others (who all conveniently decided not to reply, funny that!)

Does your opinion usually match the MSM narrative? Or is this a 1st time thing with regards to the covid?

What's the bets you reply to my whole post except answer the question at the bottom??

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a reply to: FinallyAwake


Note to all. Still none of the above names have replied to my question, yet they are still posting in other threads.

Nuff said, they all support and actually believe the MSM regarding covid.

Speaks a lot about (the lack of) logic & intelligence imo.

originally posted by: FinallyAwake

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: chr0naut

Sorry I missed your point. Spanish flu killed a ton more people than Covid. And....???

I thought it was your point. Several times you seem to be suggesting that because something is deadlier, that COVID-19 isn't deadly.

Despite it's lower CFR, COVID-19 has killed 4 million plus in two years, worldwide. 1/2 a million plus in the US alone.

4 million people IF the numbers are accurate.

Also you say the vaxine has been proven to be safe?
(yes over 1 year, IF the numbers are accurate)

So according to your opinion that the vax is safe now, does that mean that there will be no long term side effects??? Because that's what you're implying by saying they are safe.

Safe definition - Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages
Search for a word
safe
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Learn to pronounce
See definitions in:
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adjective
1.
protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost.
"eggs remain in the damp sand, safe from marine predators"

(bold me 👆)

Ill ask you the same as Phage, zombie and OtherSideOfTheCoin one of the others (who all conveniently decided not to reply, funny that!)

Does your opinion usually match the MSM narrative? Or is this a 1st time thing with regards to the covid?

What's the bets you reply to my whole post except answer the question at the bottom??

🤔

My opinion does not always match the MSM narrative.

For instance, I still do not think that COVID-19 came from bats, at least within a time frame of a few years (or, similarly, from a lab studying bats). The primary mechanism that allows the SARS-CoV-2 virus to penetrate and therefore infect human cells is via the spike protein binding to ACE2 receptors. Bats cannot catch COVID-19 due to their incompatible ACE2 receptors. To get a species crossing transmission, both species must be infectable by the same virus. There does appear to be very similar viruses in bats, but these viruses also don't naturally infect humans. The animals with the most similar ACE2 receptors to human ACE2, are cats. Cats predate on bats. Cats are common companion animals to humans. So I theorize that it is likely that the virus that was an ancestor to SARS.CoV-2 crossed the species barrier decades ago into domestic cats, and then sometime in 2018, this mutated into a form that infected humans and was pathogenic. In humans, we have already observed the pathogen becoming more infectious. So I would theorize that the initial virus from cats may have taken a few mutations to become pathogenic in humans. The biggest pathogenic effect of the virus is the way it firstly uses ACE2 to penetrate the cell, then it turns off the ACE2 mechanism so that viral particles can exit the cell. ACE2 is essential to stop hemorrhage and other metabolic issues. Turn off ACE2 and the cells disrupt and die. This explains the pneumonia that we see in COVID-19 cases.

Anyway, that's just one instance where I disagree with the MSM's narratives (and similar ones like the lab release hypothesis).

However, the MSM are, to a certain extent, reporting on scientific observation and opinions. So, just because it comes via the MSM, doesn't necessarily negate the actual truth of what is reported. However, the assumptions, opinions and conclusions are different to that.

And also, many of the purported 'alternative' hypotheses are actually from the the same 'MSM'.

There is no single narrative from the many reporting groups, but conspiracy theories would necessarily require that there were an agreed single narrative, which is the 'conspiracy' part. There isn't.

a reply to: chr0naut

Thanks for making the effort to reply, tbh I was only realating to the v@xines with regards to my OQ, but appreciate your insight nine the less. At least you bothered unlike some.

Wouldn't be surprised to hear from said names now they know how to answer.

I do agree that not all news is false, however something on this scale I feel, should be cut and dry with regards to safety, data, communication to the people, and politically. But it's not, its a huge mess with multiple places/countries of blame.

The conspiracy theorists are only a small part of the problem (if they are a problem) imo, and not all to blame like the forevervaxxers seem to be doing.

Cheers
FA

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: loveguy

Im a reasonably intelligent person and i cannot connect the fragments of your post to make sense of it. Not trying to be rude at all. About lining up the numbers of cases and deaths, we have no more idea today how many covid cases and deaths exist than we knew for spanish flu. For #s sake, we were not even aware of influenza in 1918 much less had any means to test spanish flu. Shifting back to covid, the pcr test not only is unreliable for identifying coronavirus, it cannot even tell the difference between coronavirus and influenza. Moving forward the cdc will only allow tests that can differentiate between coronavirus and flu to test for covid but anyone can look up on the internet to see an influenza a and b test is wildly inaccurate ranging from 50 to 90% accuracy. This move is clearly just to restore the publics confidence in covid testing -- a false sense of security.

I care not if one chooses to vax or not vax so much as if that choice is taken away from them. Get busy living or get busy dying.

Hi thanks.👍

50 million + in a two year span for Spanish flu rounding off, as compared to covid...if it's under 5 million deaths that is a percentage not enough to justify jailing is what it is honest and trustworthy healthy people walking around after two years......100 years ago not a lot were just out walking around unaffected.

The numbers don't jibe if herd immunity is the target of the jab. its for a common cold that our bodies naturally, physiologically have done battle against despite efforts performed in a laboratory....

Mandates, lockdowns, evictions that haven't materialized yet, but owner tenant disputes leading to someone dying, but not the creditors because nothing else is tangible to them. Masks are giving courage to robbers....

The fear is manufactured.





eta

Novel was the selling point...but none of the VAX are reportedly targeting that novel strain like they sell us a new flu strain every season.

Oh, and natural home remedies cancel out the need to visit hospital.💯