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reply posted on 26-3-2005 @ 06:46 AM by Ritual
To the person who said New York has security measures we dont know about. Yeah they might but look at what good it did them on Sept. 11th. I think you should stop relying on security you cant see on the assumption you think it exists, because it probably doesnt.

420 billion to protect 300 million people is pathetic.

It is even more pathetic on how much things actually cost (inflation).

There is no way it costs million and millions of dollars for one single airplane. It is either greed, poor management(not using mass production techniques like robots and relying on human labor), or it is all a lie and they produce things effectively but siphon the money somewhere else.

Give me a million man Army, 420 billion dollars, and a country the size of the United States to protect, along with the Oceans surrounding it, and I will tell you your on crack.

Maybe the US Military does a decent job. I dont know. But it just seems to me like we might have the best Army, but when it relates to the Security of the UNited States it is a drop in the bucket.

I Know that we are all alive today on luck.

If anyone even remotely dangerous wanted to attack the US and cause mass death, there isnt much stopping them. I think your dumb if you think any other way.

Say to yourself that you want to build a bomb today. Or go through the scenario in your head. There is no mechanism from stopping you. You would be able to at least kill dozens of people probably pretty easily. You could probably take out that many people with a firearm, nevermind building a bomb.

Schools, Clubs, Malls, DMV, Concerts. All usually have huge congregations of people. Any wacko can take these places out.

So screw you all in saying to have trust in a security you dont even know exists. That is idiocy and will only get you killed.

I dont have to preach to the peons about what Security is or what the Military has to do. So get a clue.


reply posted on 26-3-2005 @ 10:09 AM by Ritual
Well who cares about f-22's.

What is a f-22 going to do? It is an offensive weapon.

I am not a child or a schitzo.

There have been 20 terror cells broken up in the US? bull. WHat 20 out of 100?

There are still drug gangs. And what do you think the drug gangs are going to do when the US govt. actually tries to stop drugs? They are going to start a terror campaign.

There are still Islamic religious organizations in this country.

There are still people who support the Islamic crusade against the US.

There are still no real checks and balances on monopoly.

The country is 10% american and 90% foreign.

WE have no border protection other then motion sensors and about 2 border patrol agents for every 50 miles. There are probably tunnels anyways.

Mexico is not a good neighbor, nor does it respect the US at all.

Canada is not a good neigbor, it is like a Euro trash country.

The US Govt. wants us to have all this blind faith on our Military, so they can pay dumbass ROTC graduates 45,000 a year and just hope that the terrorists decide they arent going to attack.

Most cops in the US are more concerned about getting laid then they are actually busting drug dealers, or preventing murderers. They are too full of themselves and dont want unecessary danger. They just want their check and to go about their worthless lives. I dont blame them since upper management doesnt press the issue anyways.

So please dont throw out insults.

Goto any city and tell me that there are no problems. Goto the South. Even middle class suburbia is screwed.

We are invaded by foreign nationals, and the big business's of the world.

America isnt white America anymore. It still might be a paradise, but our laws and standards are taking the dump.

You have black culture, please someone tell me how black culture isa good thing? They say white people are racist, any black person Ive met has been 1000X more racist then I have EVER been. And you have hip hop and general black culture that is NOT moral or even tolerable as far as I am concerned.

You have hispanic people who just think they own part of our country. Or somehow they should be automatically granted the money from our government to live? They dont care about anything else besides exploiting the system. Hispanics deal drugs, they dont work low paying jobs. I been to Phoenix on vacation, I never seen so much white racism in my life. Hundreds of Mexican gangabngers everywhere. How they could hold reputable jobs is beyond me. So I dont beleive that all of these Mexicans who come into the country are leading productive lives. BS I am not blind.

Then you have all the foreign people. All of the Germans and Russians and Dutch people. They dont even speak English, and they look like weirdos. THey are probably cheap porn stars or something, or thiefs.

Now before you all think im racist, I am a white person. I have almost all of the race's in my genealogy. Mostly Italian and Portuguese. I am not trying to discriminate against certain races. I just tell it like I see it.

Meet any person and there is a good chance the person is not anyone you could trust or even get along with.

The world is so dilluted with scumbags it is unreal. And I live in a somewhat decent area and it is still bad.

So it is no wonder our govt is so unorganized and illequipped to handle any of the problems. There are not enough good people to step up to the plate. And the bad outweigh the good, it is too great a problem to try and tackle.

I dont even use drugs and I could find pretty much any kind of drug I would possibly ever want. Same with chemicals and electronics to build myself a fricken Oklahama City bomb.

Yeah the world is so peachy that I am not going to critique it, instead I should just have blind faith.

YEAH OK SURE




reply posted on 26-3-2005 @ 11:20 AM by Code 3

There are still drug gangs. And what do you think the drug gangs are going to do when the US govt. actually tries to stop drugs? They are going to start a terror campaign.


This is because of prohibition, legalize the drugs for ADULTS, make it really hard for our children to get them and all the drug money for the black market disappears and no more drug gangs. Prohibition creates the black market, we can never arrest our way out.


There are still people who support the Islamic crusade against the US


It is not a crusade, they dont like having all of there resources and people explioted by corporate America. Your Governement was complicant on 911 at the very least, or at mostwere behind it, so people like YOU will scream for security over freedom. Its the oldest game in the book for setting up a police state.


Mexico is not a good neighbor, nor does it respect the US at all.


Could it be that we use Mexico every chance we get? Look at back in the early 80's when they tried to get there oil industry off the ground. Opec lowered oil prices until they could not compete. It was preditory business practice.


We are invaded by foreign nationals, and the big business's of the world.


Ageed!


America isnt white America anymore. It still might be a paradise, but our laws and standards are taking the dump.


Again right on the money, we are being turned into a third world country by design of the globalists, which out government is in on. America is being dismanteled and fleeced, they want our rights to disappear because once our great people pull away from television, and if they do wake up before its to late we could just maybe derail the plan that has been in place for hundreds of years.

Read "The protocols of the wisemen of Zion" It was written in the 1700"s. Americas high school students are way behind what they were in the 1800's. "The information age" is acually "The entertainment age"

End of rant

[edit on 26-3-2005 by Code 3]


reply posted on 26-3-2005 @ 11:44 AM by Ritual
I dont beleive in a police state.

I beleive in alot of police, but not anymore absurd laws.

I support the Constitution. So I dont want to see anybody not being able to speak their mind (as long as you dont threaten anyone with violence). I support the right for people to carry weapons. I support freedom of press. I support privacy.


I dont support freedom of religion because I think religion is for the weak minded. And I think it causes more problems and racism then it is good for. ( just my opinion).

So im not all about stripping rights. Patriot Act is already unconstitional as far as labeling domestic terrorists as anyone who opposes the government ( i think it says something like that). I thought that was why we had the 1st amendment to begin with. The patriot Act is taking away the check and balance to stop the government from taking total control over everyone and turning them into slaves who cant speak their mind.

So I kind of resent that. Im not protesting or writing letters to politicians. I just made an internet post. I just dont think we spend enough or take enough security measures. And why do we care about budget when we control our own money. Why should we even care about the global market?

Do you think Russia or China or any other country has moral standards over its money? No they probably do everything they want. Half of the US Big companies were probably started with foreign money that foreign countries created. Why should we respect another country's currency when we do not control how it is made or created? Whatever that is another post entirely.

Thanks for your 0 contribution to the topic though, saying I support a police state like I am some rich beurocrat who could give a damn because I can live perpetually as filthy rich. Im not one of them. Im not a politician either. Im not democratic. And im not Republican.

I am a Socialist. But not a Socialist like you would think.



reply posted on 7-4-2005 @ 07:26 PM by motionknight
Originally posted by Ritual
Well who cares about f-22's.

What is a f-22 going to do? It is an offensive weapon.

I am not a child or a schitzo.

There have been 20 terror cells broken up in the US? bull. WHat 20 out of 100?

There are still drug gangs. And what do you think the drug gangs are going to do when the US govt. actually tries to stop drugs? They are going to start a terror campaign.

There are still Islamic religious organizations in this country.

There are still people who support the Islamic crusade against the US.

There are still no real checks and balances on monopoly.

The country is 10% american and 90% foreign.

WE have no border protection other then motion sensors and about 2 border patrol agents for every 50 miles. There are probably tunnels anyways.

Mexico is not a good neighbor, nor does it respect the US at all.

Canada is not a good neigbor, it is like a Euro trash country.

The US Govt. wants us to have all this blind faith on our Military, so they can pay dumbass ROTC graduates 45,000 a year and just hope that the terrorists decide they arent going to attack.

Most cops in the US are more concerned about getting laid then they are actually busting drug dealers, or preventing murderers. They are too full of themselves and dont want unecessary danger. They just want their check and to go about their worthless lives. I dont blame them since upper management doesnt press the issue anyways.

So please dont throw out insults.

Goto any city and tell me that there are no problems. Goto the South. Even middle class suburbia is screwed.

We are invaded by foreign nationals, and the big business's of the world.

America isnt white America anymore. It still might be a paradise, but our laws and standards are taking the dump.

You have black culture, please someone tell me how black culture isa good thing? They say white people are racist, any black person Ive met has been 1000X more racist then I have EVER been. And you have hip hop and general black culture that is NOT moral or even tolerable as far as I am concerned.

You have hispanic people who just think they own part of our country. Or somehow they should be automatically granted the money from our government to live? They dont care about anything else besides exploiting the system. Hispanics deal drugs, they dont work low paying jobs. I been to Phoenix on vacation, I never seen so much white racism in my life. Hundreds of Mexican gangabngers everywhere. How they could hold reputable jobs is beyond me. So I dont beleive that all of these Mexicans who come into the country are leading productive lives. BS I am not blind.

Then you have all the foreign people. All of the Germans and Russians and Dutch people. They dont even speak English, and they look like weirdos. THey are probably cheap porn stars or something, or thiefs.

Now before you all think im racist, I am a white person. I have almost all of the race's in my genealogy. Mostly Italian and Portuguese. I am not trying to discriminate against certain races. I just tell it like I see it.

Meet any person and there is a good chance the person is not anyone you could trust or even get along with.

The world is so dilluted with scumbags it is unreal. And I live in a somewhat decent area and it is still bad.

So it is no wonder our govt is so unorganized and illequipped to handle any of the problems. There are not enough good people to step up to the plate. And the bad outweigh the good, it is too great a problem to try and tackle.

I dont even use drugs and I could find pretty much any kind of drug I would possibly ever want. Same with chemicals and electronics to build myself a fricken Oklahama City bomb.

Yeah the world is so peachy that I am not going to critique it, instead I should just have blind faith.

YEAH OK SURE



You are the prototype of the stupid american!!!
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