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Originally posted by they see ALL
in church today (Palm Sunday), the gospel reading (i am not sure which one sry) said that when Jesus died on the cross, an earthquake came about and tombs of the dead were opened and the dead walked with the living...
is there any other text (besides the bible) that describes an earthquake or zombies walking around during about the time / day Jesus died???
this is going to get interesting
Originally posted by dnero6911
Zombies? .... okay, realistically do you see dead people walking around... ?
The spirits of the dead were released, the light that "runs" your brain, was released...
The ground apparently gave forth and blood from the wound in Jesus' side leaked thru the rocks onto the Ark of the Covenant (which amazingly enough its last recorded whereabouts was the site of his crucifixion)
and his blood flowed on the right hand side of the ark and was an atonement for all our sins...
animals were sacrificed over the right hand side to pay for sins before Jesus was even born.. biblically..
Eusebius quotes Phlegon verbatim (the only one to do so), and what Phlegon actually said is telling--the text is attested in Syncellus in the original Greek, but also in the Latin of Jerome, the Syrian epitome, and the Armenian:
Jesus Christ..underwent his passion in the 18th year of Tiberius [32 AD]. Also at that time in another Greek compendium we find an event recorded in these words: "the sun was eclipsed, Bithynia was struck by an earthquake, and in the city of Nicaea many buildings fell." All these things happened to occur during the Lord's passion. In fact, Phlegon, too, a distinguished reckoner of Olympiads, wrote more on these events in his 13th book, saying this: "Now, in the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad [32 AD], a great eclipse of the sun occurred at the sixth hour [noon] that excelled every other before it, turning the day into such darkness of night that the stars could be seen in heaven, and the earth moved in Bithynia, toppling many buildings in the city of Nicaea."
This quotation shows that Phlegon did not mention Jesus in this context at all (he may still have mentioned him in some other obscure context, if we believe Origen). Rather, Phlegon merely recorded a great earthquake in Bithynia, which is on the coast of the Black Sea, more than 500 miles away from Jerusalem--so there is no way this quake would have been felt near the crucifixion--and a magnificent noontime eclipse, whose location is not clear. If the eclipse was also in Bithynia, as the Phlegon quote implies but does not entail, it also could not have been seen in Jerusalem, any more than partially, since the track of a total eclipse spans only 100 miles and runs from west to east (Jerusalem is due south).
George Syncellus, a 9th-century monk, composed a world chronicle, quoting verbatim from numerous previous chroniclers, one of whom being the 3rd-century Christian chronicler Julius Africanus. In one such case, Africanus is quoted regarding "what followed the savior's passion and life-giving resurrection" as follows:
This event followed each of his deeds, and healings of body and soul, and knowledge of hidden things, and his resurrection from the dead, all sufficiently proven to the disciples before us and to his apostles: after the most dreadful darkness fell over the whole world, the rocks were torn apart by an earthquake and much of Judaea and the rest of the land was torn down. Thallus calls this darkness an eclipse of the sun in the third book of his Histories, without reason it seems to me. For....how are we to believe that an eclipse happened when the moon was diametrically opposite the sun?
This is all we get. It isn't clear what Thallus actually said, or whether he even mentioned Jesus at all. Africanus is merely criticising the possibility that the darkness at the death of Christ was a solar eclipse, and thus a natural rather than a supernatural event
Letter Of Mara Bar-Serapion: A British Museum manuscript (written by a father to his son, sometime after A.D. 73) states, "What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the teaching of Plato. Pythagoras did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; He lived on in the teaching which He had given."
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Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
The Book of Mormon, in 3 Nephi Chapter 23, most particularly verse 11 where Jesus berates the people for not recording the fact that some people climbed out of their graves and walked around, after Christ's resurrection.
Found one for earthquakes too, a few chapters earlier. 3 Nephi Chapter 8, verses 12-18.
It doesn't connect the two specifically, except by the extreme nearness of time period, though.
[edit on 21-3-2005 by DragonsDemesne]