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posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 09:25 AM
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The Fenian invasion was not the United States Government.



Madison, in his war message to Congress, gave several reasons for war:

Ongoing impressment of American sailors into service on British Navy ships, an insulting breach of American sovereignty; see Chesapeake/Leopard Affair
Britain's navy "violating the rights and the peace of our coasts";
Britain's blockade of U.S. ports ("our commerce has been plundered in every sea");
Britain's refusal to repeal its Order-In-Council forbidding neutral countries to trade with European countries, and the British Navy's enforcement of this order;
Britain's incitement of Native American nations (referred to as "savages") to violence against the Americans.




Many Canadians consider the War of 1812 to have been an American defeat. From their point of view, the American invasions of 1813 and 1814 were repulsed. Further supporting this point of view is that the British occupied some American territory at the end of the war; however, the Americans did not occupy any British territory. However, from the American point of view, the war was a successful defense of American rights, which they claimed culminated in the victory at New Orleans. Because New Orleans was successfully defended, American expansion into the Southwest was possible.


We gained what we wanted from the war, to get Britain finally off our backs and let us trade with other Nations.




posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by cryptorsa1001
We gained what we wanted from the war, to get Britain finally off our backs and let us trade with other Nations.


Is this what known as a tactical withdrawl.



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 09:29 AM
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Lukefj, what about the 4 cops killed a few days ago? Did a Canadian do it or did and American cross the border and shoot those cops?



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 09:31 AM
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I am Canadian. Let me take this opportunity to let Americans know that Axeworthy and his Liberal Left Loonies dont speak for all of us.

I live in the city with the largest population of Americans outside of the USA and they are a welcome part of our community.

They know that we (In the West) have little in common with the power provinces of Ontario and Quebec that keep re-electing the Liberals back into power again and again.

Sadly, the reality of Canadian politics is that the Western provinces arent needed to get your party elected into power.

Since our beliefs are so much different from the masses in Ontario and Quebec, we are ignored.

There are many here on both sides of the border that think the border should run north/south rather than east/west.



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 10:06 AM
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No, it is not a tactical withdraw. Lets put things in a different perspective. Back then Britain had the best Navy and the best soldiers in the world. Britain had the most power and influence at the time. America had a very weak army and very few warships. Britain was using its power and influence to get what it wanted from America.

Today it is almost the exact opposite. This post was started because most Canadians think that America is on their backs using its power to get what America wants from Canada. Right now America has the best military in the world overall. So, lets say Canada attacks America
and at the end of the war Canada gets America off its back and does not lose any land. You got what you wanted from the war and you did not get conquered. Would you consider that a win?

If the intent was for America to defeat Britain
and take over Canada I do not think the war would have been started at all.



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