Well, actually, that might not be that far from what these "protesters" actually want. Believe it or not, it almost seems like someone has packaged
some creepy orwellian # inside an anti-authoritarian disguise. I mean, who could be against a message that says "We want the cops to stop killing
people and being unfair"?
You follow me? That's what this forum is all about! That's why most of us are here! I would wager that most of the people on this forum ARE
anti-authoritarian. If you could erase certain events from history (Let's say the Rodney King thing was never on the news, for example), most people
would still have some personal experience with cops who went too far. I know this as a matter of personal experience. I am white and I don't have a
criminal record and I never have had a criminal record and even I have been pulled over by the police FOR NO REASON and kept on the side of the road
for TWO HOURS with them trying to find a reason to arrest me. This was 15 years ago and I was about 30 so I was hardly some cocky young punk at the
I think if you grew up in the United States you probably have been hassled by the police in one way or another. And many people probably have been
hassled by them for no reason whatsoever. Just because the cops were there and you were there and they were looking for a reason to do something. This
happens. This has happened. To many people. Almost everyone knows it. I mean, if you are wealthy, maybe it never happened to you because they probably
don't pick on people who look like they could afford a good lawyer. But I have known plenty of white people who had the same experiences I had. It's
not really as much of a racial thing the way they try to make you think it is.
Now does that mean the cops don't racially profile black people or Hispanics or whatever? Does that mean that they don't abuse them even more than
they do white people? Of course not. I'm sure that black people and other minorities have every reason to feel like they are singled out unjustly. And
in many cases, they're probably right.
But here's the thing. Crime DOES happen. It's real. Set all the other BS aside and you do still have real world statistics that say "Certain people
are more likely to be involved in criminal activity". It's not a pretty thing to acknowledge but there's more than a kernal of truth to it, right?
So. Are the BLM people completely wrong? No. They're not. The basic beef they have with the system is factually accurate. But here's the thing. A
good analogy to this thing is to think of the message they are putting forward is to think of it as a key that opens many doors that would normally be
locked and require seperate keys for each and every lock. If you wanted to open every single one of those doors at the same time, you would normally
need a whole bunch of keys. And the reason locks exist in the first place is because each lock requires a different key and not just anyone can open
So, you have a special key that opens most of those locks. An issue like racism IS that key. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. UNLESS that key
falls into the wrong hands. And especially if it falls into the wrong hands and the vast majority of people fail to recognize that. Or even fail to
ask the question. Maybe it's better to think of it as a master password without a security question than a key but I'm old fashioned so I'm still
thinking about keys. The security question would be something only good people would know. If you asked someone with a nefarious agenda what the
security question is, they'd have no idea.
So we'd have "racism" as a master password and "Civil liberties still matter more" as the security question.
Anyway, the topic of this thread is "the thought police". I think it's a very reasonable concern that if someone wants to dismantle the currents
system of law and order, what would they replace it with? And why would they want to do that in the first place? What are you (realistically) going to
replace the current police system with that is not going to end up being abused? I don't think it's possible. Anyone who was intelligent enough to
come up with an alternative would know that everything has it's own flaws and a new system would not be inherently better or more just simply because
it was new and the road it drives on was paved with (supposedly) good intentions. The system we already have is fundamentally based on good
intentions. And we see how many ways that can go (and has gone) wrong. No. Making big changes is not a magic solution.
Anyway, I don't like the sound of any of this and I especially do not believe that the people behind this movement are really in it for the right
reasons. Even if they think they are. I do not have a problem with the basic message here. Black lives DO matter. Every life matters. But that's what
worries me. We shouldn't have a problem with the basic message and most decent people don't. Which makes them ripe for manipulation.
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