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posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 01:18 AM
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I made a mention in another thread, but as I said, this info(for my state, seems impossible to find).

I don't want 2018 stats, I dont want the polished figures.

While I can't find them, I'm a looser(I admit it). If anyone has recent state stats, that would be awesome, from any state.

Line chart it, every means of death for the past 6 months for your state, if they "allow" anyone to have those stats.

I like many expect to see several things "fall" drastically while the evil covid skyrockets.

I drudged through my local state sight, any info available was well over 12 months old. I understand stats take time, but that time also gives way to lies/manipulation.

In the end, "trusting the state/media" should be the last think any intelligent individual does.




posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 01:28 AM
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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030
I made a mention in another thread, but as I said, this info(for my state, seems impossible to find).

I don't want 2018 stats, I dont want the polished figures.

While I can't find them, I'm a looser(I admit it). If anyone has recent state stats, that would be awesome, from any state.

Line chart it, every means of death for the past 6 months for your state, if they "allow" anyone to have those stats.

I like many expect to see several things "fall" drastically while the evil covid skyrockets.

I drudged through my local state sight, any info available was well over 12 months old. I understand stats take time, but that time also gives way to lies/manipulation.

In the end, "trusting the state/media" should be the last think any intelligent individual does.


Good Lord, are you really prepared for the deluge of numbers coming your way?

You will never get an honest answer. Ever. If ATS is functioning in 3 years it will be debated.



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 01:56 AM
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The point,

is unless you have a link to the last 4 months of your state's death causes, none of us has even a glimpse of the truth. Why is this info "shielded" why is it a year behind(even though all the talking heads reference recent data).

Manipulation, that's why...

They have it(craft the narrative), you don't(rebuke the false info).

When the "dust" settles a year from now.....it's too late for you to call "shenanigans".

Lynch your local politicians, for their own good????



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 02:02 AM
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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030
The point,

is unless you have a link to the last 4 months of your state's death causes, none of us has even a glimpse of the truth. Why is this info "shielded" why is it a year behind(even though all the talking heads reference recent data).

Manipulation, that's why...

They have it(craft the narrative), you don't(rebuke the false info).

When the "dust" settles a year from now.....it's too late for you to call "shenanigans".

Lynch your local politicians, for their own good????


Your point is spot on. The most infuriating thing about this is there is nothing you can believe.

I choose to believe the CDC screwed the pooch with #'s, did the responsible thing and admitted it but the damage was done.

If you were alive during 9/11 you would know about the colored "terror levels". We had 3 months of terror then a war and we were being pushed by the msm at that time. That was the actual beginning as there were no 24 hour news programs prior.

The media fuels terror even if science allows for correction

Stories will disappear. Things you thought you saw will change. Timelines will get twisted and lost.

Edit to add - Im out -sorry for mumbling up this thread...
edit on 23-4-2020 by ColoradoJens because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 02:04 AM
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Why is it that my state can tell me the death rate of covid 19 this week but I can't access the states death records for the last year or so. What meaning does it have, how can we quantify the amounts.

Any half ass idiot would assume they are being played, but just watch the daily briefs and take in the numbers....bull#.

F' these fools. If you want to pretend you are "transparent" then give everyone the figures to pick apart, even if that means you get exposed as a bunch of political hacks that you are.

It's all bull#, unless all the data is available, it's juts manipulation, spoiler, no one is buying that #.



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 02:07 AM
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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030
Why is it that my state can tell me the death rate of covid 19 this week but I can't access the states death records for the last year or so. What meaning does it have, how can we quantify the amounts.

Any half ass idiot would assume they are being played, but just watch the daily briefs and take in the numbers....bull#.

F' these fools. If you want to pretend you are "transparent" then give everyone the figures to pick apart, even if that means you get exposed as a bunch of political hacks that you are.

It's all bull#, unless all the data is available, it's juts manipulation, spoiler, no one is buying that #.


I have literally done the same thing as you. I have looked. I can't get any real info. I mean that - i actually am looking and the data is "there" yet it isn't. Im thinking Colorado had like 400 deaths about a month ago and we now stand at 482 but we aren't at peak? A third of the deaths are in nursing homes? Numbers are nuts.
edit on 23-4-2020 by ColoradoJens because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 02:10 AM
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Is there something like European mortality monitoring for the USofA?

That seems reliable.



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 02:11 AM
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originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030
Why is it that my state can tell me the death rate of covid 19 this week but I can't access the states death records for the last year or so. What meaning does it have, how can we quantify the amounts.

Any half ass idiot would assume they are being played, but just watch the daily briefs and take in the numbers....bull#.

F' these fools. If you want to pretend you are "transparent" then give everyone the figures to pick apart, even if that means you get exposed as a bunch of political hacks that you are.

It's all bull#, unless all the data is available, it's juts manipulation, spoiler, no one is buying that #.


I have literally done the same thing as you. I can't get any real info. I mean that - i actually am looking and the data is "there" yet it isn't. Im thinking Colorado had like 400 deaths about a month ago and we now stand at 482 but we aren't at peak? A third of the deaths are in nursing homes? Numbers are nuts.


I spent a fair amount of time all over my states sites. The most "recent" data they have is 2018, at best.

Yet they have all these weekly figures to fear us into submission. If they are sound numbers, they should be available for public consumption. They either aren't sound or aren't fit for public scrutiny.

Both outcomes are damning.

This is a backfire of epic proportions, never...EVER...EVER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust a politician, the only good they have is holding down a lamppost from floating away.



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 02:15 AM
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So distractions of my own thread aside.

The point was does anyone, in any state actually have access to the true statistics of their state with regard to deaths.

NOT what the media says, but REAL death rates, that you could chart over the last 6 months.....

I highly doubt it....



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 03:28 AM
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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030
So distractions of my own thread aside.

The point was does anyone, in any state actually have access to the true statistics of their state with regard to deaths.

NOT what the media says, but REAL death rates, that you could chart over the last 6 months.....

I highly doubt it....


The Department of Health, HHS, or whatever it's called in your state should have the statistics as they're the ones that typically maintain death certificates. Depending on the state I would guess there's a variable window of how long it takes for it to be digitized and tallied. If it's not kept on a website with a running tally then you would probably need a public records request. No telling how long that would take. If you're still having minimal staffing in your state it could be a long time.

I don't think there's any doubt heart attacks and strokes haven't slowed down, but there's a certain percentage that are being counted as COVID deaths. If they ever revise the numbers down it will be after the emergency response funds are received and then it will be done quietly with no media coverage.



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: ZapBrannigan3030


I did math today and solely based on the numbers available and the time line.
I came up with 691898 total deaths by the end of the year.
But again I only can use numbers presented to me.
So percentage of the actual population, confirmed cases and confirmed deaths.
I really hope I am wrong but that is what I got.



posted on Apr, 23 2020 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030
I made a mention in another thread, but as I said, this info(for my state, seems impossible to find).

I don't want 2018 stats, I dont want the polished figures.

While I can't find them, I'm a looser(I admit it). If anyone has recent state stats, that would be awesome, from any state.

Line chart it, every means of death for the past 6 months for your state, if they "allow" anyone to have those stats.

I like many expect to see several things "fall" drastically while the evil covid skyrockets.

I drudged through my local state sight, any info available was well over 12 months old. I understand stats take time, but that time also gives way to lies/manipulation.

In the end, "trusting the state/media" should be the last think any intelligent individual does.


I have access to data like this for my job. I can’t/won’t try to remove it from our systems - thus I can’t post it here - but I can tell you that deaths in general are down - way down - on a Y/Y basis for the 2020 timeframe in aggregate and in particular the last 45 days. On a net basis, far fewer people are dying.

There’s also a ton of excess hospital capacity if you look nationally. Something like 15% occupancy rate on average outside of really big metro areas and more like 50-60% in major metros. We have a load of capacity right now.

To the point of your question about data - it’s hard to find. But you can pretty safely assume that the historical data from 2017-2018 is playing out based on commentary from the medical community saying “heart attacks didn’t stop happening”.

professional.heart.org...

You can assume that about 724,000 Americans will have a heart attack in 2020. Maybe more or less, but the stress of lockdown could be an increasing factor, but lack of activity may keep some couch potatoes alive longer from not overdoing it.

Or, from the same article, about 400 people die a day in the US from strokes. Quick math can get you a sense of what that looks like too. Again, people didn’t stop having strokes... and the medical community already acknowledged that.

So if deaths are overall down (fewer accidents play a role in that too), hospital utilization is down, etc. but we’re counting most deaths as Covid related... you can probably see misleading figures here.

I almost guarantee to you that when we get 2020 data from this period, you’ll see a huge statistical outlier that won’t make sense - Covid will be THE killer and blamed for most non-accident hospital deaths - even though the real story is probably much different than that...



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